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Windows 7: Help with additional storage device, ie second harddrive

14 Dec 2011   #11
MilesAhead

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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On my machines the drives in the docks are actually faster than the system drives that came with the machines
Yeah, but are the drive specs the same - RPM, cache size and total size.
Of course not. Likewise the controller that came in the tower is only 3 Gb/s while the SIIG card is 5 Gb/s. I don't get the point? If the OP was a system builder he wouldn't be asking how to add a HD.


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14 Dec 2011   #12
whs
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3Gb/sec or 5Gb/sec is neither here or there. The HDD can read data at best as fast as 1Gb/sec. So the speed of the channel is really irrelevant.
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14 Dec 2011   #13
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
3Gb/sec or 5Gb/sec is neither here or there. The HDD can read data at best as fast as 1Gb/sec. So the speed of the channel is really irrelevant.
To me this whole thread hijack is irrelevant. In a 3 drive 2 controller scenario, the OS physical disk is running the OS and supposedly the disk intensive program. The data is processed across the other 2 drives using the other controller(the SIIG card.) In your 2 drive one controller setup one drive is shouldering the OS with swap, the program, and the data source, the other drive is the data destination. All the disk i/o is over one controller.

Don't think it's as efficient.
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14 Dec 2011   #14
yp89CCp

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14 Dec 2011   #15
ignatzatsonic

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by yp89CCp View Post
What???

Your link is to a $250 Western Digital 1 TB drive.

My link was to a $150 Samsung 1 TB drive.

They are different drives with similar performance and identical capacity.

On the very day that I bought my Samsung for $50 (June 19, 2011), the Western Digital Caviar Black was priced at $85. They have both tripled since that date.

Samsungs have always been cheaper.

Here are the benchmarks of each drive. Samsung on the left; WD on the right.


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14 Dec 2011   #16
yp89CCp

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I would think with holidays coming up they'd drop prices to encourage consumer spending
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14 Dec 2011   #17
whs
Microsoft MVP

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There will be no price dropping for the next 6 months - just the opposite. But I would not buy a 1TB drive for more than $70.

Keep looking here ( http://www.deals2buy.com/categories/...-devices/deals ). Sometimes they have good deals. But right now there is nothing.
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14 Dec 2011   #18
MilesAhead

Windows 7 32 bit
 
 

@ignatzatsonic even with WD Caviar Black same capacity when the 64 MB cache 6 Gb/s drives came out I notice they didn't discount the 32 MB cache models. I guess they figure they can unload them. It was kind of comical because when the 64 MB cache models were introduced some of them were actually priced lower than the equivalent 32 MB cache models. Weird! What the market will bear as they say.
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14 Dec 2011   #19
ignatzatsonic

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Weird! What the market will bear as they say.
Yeah, all I can figure is WD has been able to command a bit of a premium price for the Black series generally due to the good publicity and good performance they have had for the last 3 years or so.

Likewise, I think Samsungs are priced cheaper because that brand is more known for things other than hard drives and the retailers have to discount them to drive sales.

I've never had a problem with either, but have lately drifted toward Samsung due to the price differential.
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14 Dec 2011   #20
whs
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I always wonder whether the different makes do get their drives from the same sweatshops in Thailand and they only put their label on to be different.

I have seen that even in large systems. E.g. Siemens purchased their drives from IBM. They even arrived in the customer's office as IBM and the installing engineer just peeled the IBM label off and pasted the Siemns label on - saw that with my own eyes.
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