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Windows 7: Don't waste your money on Ultimate

10 Aug 2009   #21

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Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
 
 

My fellow geeks, I think this kind of argument is not only healthy, but also needed in this and other user forums. I also think we should accept this difference in opinions whenever we nerds and geeks argue.

OP told his opinion and arguments which in his opinion support it. This time I have a different opinion and I am not so willing to revalue or change it, but it has happened that I've had for years a strong opinion and I've been forced to change it after arguing here with somebody.

That said, I want to say this once more: Every individual user is entitled to decide which OS and which version he / she wants. Sometimes this decision is not so easy. This topic should therefore be more discussed, to help those who have difficulties to make a decision by telling our personal experiences and opinions.

For me, +1 for Ultimate.

Kari

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10 Aug 2009   #22

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kari View Post
My fellow geeks, I think this kind of argument is not only healthy, but also needed in this and other user forums.
I wholeheartedly agree and it's the reason that I like this place so much...people can differ on opinions but nobody personally attacks or flames others.
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10 Aug 2009   #23
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

I use Ultimate for the same reason I got the 3rd seat option in the Tahoe......it is there if I need it.

The fact I have never used all of Ultimate, or the 3rd seat doesn't matter.

I have them, that is all that matters.
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10 Aug 2009   #24

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 24c View Post
I use Ultimate for the same reason I got the 3rd seat option in the Tahoe......it is there if I need it.
That's all that matters...as long as you got your monies worth...that is what matters.
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10 Aug 2009   #25

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
 
 

I went for Professional, I think thats enough for me.
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10 Aug 2009   #26
24c

Win7 x64 Ult
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
That's all that matters...as long as you got your monies worth...that is what matters.
@swarfega - I went for Professional on D:\ drive.

I'm happy - THAT is what REALLY matters
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10 Aug 2009   #27

Windows 7 64 bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 View Post
I'm not aware of any student discounts on server OS's from Microsoft. I could be wrong because their licensing is pretty complicated...but I've never seen server OS's in the list. Nor am I a qualified student anymore either.
Microsoft DreamSpark

https://www.dreamspark.com/default.aspx
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10 Aug 2009   #28

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mystere View Post

Well, it's just too bad that I am not a student anymore and thus not qualified for any of this stuff. Thanks for the link. I've read a bunch of the FAQ stuff...seems like a pretty cool program. However, I think lots will have trouble with the single install, single activation limitation.
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10 Aug 2009   #29

Windows 7 Pro (MSDN)
 
 

The only feature in Ultimate that looks interesting to me it the MUI.

But here's my beef with the MUI: why the hell is it limited to only Ultimate and Enterprise? Let's say you are a family living in Quebec. Some users of your family prefer English, some prefer French. Right now, the only sensible thing to do is to buy an English version and a French version, and have one computer set up for English and another set up for French. But what if there is a common shared computer on which you want both languages? Sorry, you gotta be an Ultimate/Enterprise user for that!

Okay, to be fair to Microsoft, this is better than how it was in 2K/XP, where MUIs were available only to volume licensing customers (and to MSDN). The idea back then was that MUIs made it possible for companies to support multiple languages in a more uniform way: deploy a standard base English version to all machines, and then on certain machines, install the MUI (plus, this ensure that every machine had the base language on it, so that the IT staff would still be able to navigate a machine that was given to a Spanish-speaking employee). But MUIs are pretty useful outside of corporate mass deployments, for multi-lingual immigrant families, for example.

Anyway, for me, the reason I care about MUIs is that they are necessary for testing software in different locales (especially in RTL locales like Hebrew or Arabic where the rules of layout can get really funky). But I have a MSDN subscription, so this isn't a problem for me personally (but even though I have access to free Ultimate licenses, I still use Professional and use Ultimate only on my test/debug systems, simply because I don't need the other features in Ultimate).

I really wish Microsoft would just kill the Ultimate SKU, make MUIs a universal feature (most immigrant families that would benefit from MUIs are not going to be able to afford Ultimate), and fold the other handful of rare and exotic Ultimate features into Professional. Remember back in the good old days when Professional was the top SKU? And then they could kill the Starter SKU, too. They can keep Home Basic as an emerging market product, but would it really kill them to make Home Premium the bottom item? HP is already the lowest that you can get at retail, so why the heck have an even lower Starter edition that--get this--doesn't even let you change your wallpaper?

PS: There's a bit of Vista history here: in Vista, the editions were not supersets, and Vista Business did not have Media Center and a few other "home" features found in Home Premium. So back in the Vista days, if you wanted both "home" features like Media Center and business features like Remote Desktop, you must use Ultimate. But with Professional being a superset of HP, Ultimate makes much less sense now for Windows 7 than it did for Vista.
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10 Aug 2009   #30

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 [dual boot with Windows Vista Enterprise w/SP2]
 
 

I'll definitely waste some money on Ultimate, as my workstation deserves the name. However I don't need to buy a lot of them thanks to subscription, so for me it's just 319 bucks pending for waste.
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