Trying to enlarge my partition containing my Windows 7 Home 64-bit OS

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  1. Posts : 101
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    Trying to enlarge my partition containing my Windows 7 Home 64-bit OS


    I am trying to enlarge my partition containing my Windows 7 Home 64-bit OS.
    I have unallocated space to use for my purposes. The SystemReserve 100 MB self created by the OS during installation, is in between the partition with the OS and the unallocated space. I know that to be able to resize the unallocated has to be contiguouis to the partition to be resized. How can I change so they become contiguous?

    I had trouble using the Mini Partition Wizard.
    So I emailed them caise their Video Tiutorial in their site was not working when I tried to Resize the OS partition on a Intel SSD.
    They answered saying that their software was having isssues with SSD's and they will launch in brief a new software for SSD fo fix those issues.
    Is that the one your tutorial was based on?

    I would appreciate your comments.

    Thank you kindly
    Last edited by Brink; 14 Dec 2011 at 12:19. Reason: moved to new thread
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  2. Posts : 12,012
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       #2

    MSwhip:


    Are you using Partition Wizard 4.2.2 from a boot disc? It's generally preferable to Partition Wizard from Windows.

    Could you post a pic of your Disk Management screen.
    Last edited by Brink; 14 Dec 2011 at 12:20. Reason: moved to new thread
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  3.    #3

    Use the Snipping Tool in Start Menu, capture a Rectangular snip of the maximized Disk mgmt drive map with listings, attach using paper clip in Reply box.

    Would you like to remove the System Reserved partition first so you can do what you want more easily? We can help you do that, copy it into first partition space or slide it to the far right of the HD which will likely require the same Repairs as for eliminating it.

    Let us know which you prefer and we will give you the steps.
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  4. Posts : 101
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    to greg


    This is the best I was able to achieve, a thumbnail. Looked larger when i saved it.
    I hope you can read it.


    I tried to enlarge with Mini Partition Wizard version 7 software, did not work they say their software is having issues with SSDs.

    Tried with Windows Disk management Utility. Hopeless too.

    Whatever I do with this now, saving the data is of paramount importance.
    So at this point -as you can see from the attached snippet- I could go either way.
    Your choice of 'repairs' method.


    Thank you

    Please note:

    Given the lack of space on the OS partition and the fact I could not control where the software I needed to load was installing and therefore would 'eat up' the scant 5 GB left on the said partition, I have temporarily swapped them and now the 1 TB HDD is in the Disk 0 spot (and is the boot disk)
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Trying to enlarge my partition containing my Windows 7 Home 64-bit OS-capture.png  
    Last edited by MSwhip; 15 Dec 2011 at 09:24.
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  5. Posts : 5,795
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    I can't even begin to guess how you ended up with all those partitions and a system volume of W. Maybe I'm a bit obsessive complusive, but that would drive me crazy.

    Before doing anything, you'll want to back up your data. Let us know how you want your drives to look when finished, and we can go from there.

    If it was my system, I'd start over, creating the SSD as my bootable C drive, and the 1 TB as my D drive to store my user data.
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    The OS on the ssd will probably have o/s registry drive letter C ( unless he deliberately set it up differently during install).

    I have different o/s registry drive letters for all my installed o/s - but that is pretty unusual.

    For the partitioning question - you are right to wait for the new Partition Wizard, or use another partitioner which already supports ssd.
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  7.    #7

    When you are booted into the OS on SSD, it's letter should be C. If not then you must have run the installer from C which locked out that letter. It also placed the System files for W on C which is why all other HD's should be unplugged during install.

    What is the Programs partition on the SSD? Programs should be installed on the OS partition as they write Registry keys which integrate themselves into the OS so should remain together for imaging purposes.

    I agree with Deacon that you should boot into the Win7 DVD (the only way an install should be done) to use Custom install Drive Options to delete all partitions on the SSD, reinstall to one partition. Unplug the HD first. Here's how to get a perfect reinstall: Reinstalling Windows 7

    Otherwise you can unplug HD, swap its cable to SSD or set SSD to boot first in BIOS setup, boot free Partition Wizard bootable CD, rightclick C to Modify>Convert to Primary, click OK, then rightclick C again to Modify>Set to Active, OK, then click on SSD to highlight it, from Disk tab select Rebuild MBR, Apply all steps. This may preclude the need to run Startup Repair 3 Separate Times from the Win7 DVD Repair console or System Repair Disk to write the System boot files to Active partition.

    After Win7 starts you can delete SysReserved partition to extend C using Disk Mgmt.
    Partition or Volume - Delete
    Partition or Volume - Extend

    Afterwards plug back in HD, boot it using one-time BIOS Boot Menu key.
    Last edited by gregrocker; 15 Dec 2011 at 18:14.
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  8. Posts : 101
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    About what was said


    For Deacon,
    I agree. that is what I was trying to achieve. Install the OS on the SSD. and 'maybe' the most important Software programs too.
    I had SSD as Disk 0 and no other drive connected to the Desktop.
    For that I had created a partition of 25GB, thinking that it would be enough and that the rest of the Software i would be able to install on the HDD after I was done installing the OS and a couple other Software Programs like LastPass, Firefox, Avira Antivir and the Windows Media Center. At that junction I decided to resize the OS partition and enlarge it to 30GB, and was unable to do it as I explained on the initial post which started this thread.
    Now having read Greg saying that ALL SOFWARE PROGRAMS should also be installed in the SSD I will resize it (whenever I am able) to 40GB.
    I rather reserve letter "D" for the CD/DVD ROM drive, and I have another 4 HDD in an external 4 Bay enclosure connected to the Mainboard via an eSata port in the back of the tower. That is why I designated the 'W' for the 1TB HDD inside the PC (I have just 2 bays) and now -of late- the new SSD addition.

    Greg asked me why had I "cut the listings". I thought I was keeping things simpler, cause at this point what I left out was all the information about the other 4 HDD which seemed inmaterial and unrelated to the issue that made me ask for help. The isssue is mostly with the SDD... and the inclusion of the one HDD had to do with the fact that data will be going to be stored in there (as well as in the other 4 HDD)
    As to Greg's instructions after re-reading them a few times I find a couple of terms that confuse me:
    QUOTE
    Otherwise you can unplug HD, swap its cable to SSD or set SSD to boot first in BIOS setup, mark Win7 on SSD Active, then run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times to write the system boot files to Win7 until it starts on its own and holds the System Active flags. Then delete System Reserved to extend Win7 into its space.
    Partition - Mark as Active
    Partition or Volume - Delete
    Partition or Volume - Extend
    UNQUOTE
    - 'mark Win7 on SSD Active" does it mean to tap-tap the F8 key as Windows boots up, then highlight the SSD line and then within the boot menu hit the System Repair once... when it is done exit and reboot the PC...and do the same another couple times?
    - how will I know when Win 7 starts on its own? by trying until it does? what does 'holds the System Active flags" mean?
    - Last 3 short lines in blue: is that 2 steps in there? a. highlight the System Reserved partition and delete it? and b. resize the OS partition from the 25 now to the 40GB when im done?

    Lastly you said 'Afterwards plug back in HD, boot it using one-time BIOS Boot Menu key'; please excuse my ignorance but what does one-time BIOS Boot Menu mean? This time around tap tap the F12 key without setting the BIOS permanently to boot from the HDD?

    Thanks again for sharing knowledge, being helpful and exercising patience with me.
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  9.    #9

    I changed the steps to use Partition Wizard bootable CD to mark Active since you first need to convert C from Logical to Primary partition which PW CD can do. It also has a feature on it's Disk tab where it will Rebuild the System MBR on the highlighted HD once marked Active so you may not need to run Startup Repair 3 times to do this.

    You then want to check Win7 partition on SSD to make sure it holds the System Active flags which are the listings on each partition, which we needed to see for all drives to check they are correct. You want no Active partitions except the OS. Logical partitions cannot be marked Active until converted to Primary.

    Startup Repair needs to be run from Win7 DVD or System Repair CD System Recovery Options.

    Yes since SSD will be set first to boot when you plug back in the HD, you'd tap the F12 key to boot the HD when needed. If this isn't to your liking, you can install EasyBCD 2.02 to Win7 on SSD to add the other OS on SSD.
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    MSwhip said:
    This is the best I was able to achieve, a thumbnail. Looked larger when i saved it.
    I hope you can read it.


    I tried to enlarge with Mini Partition Wizard version 7 software, did not work they say their software is having issues with SSDs.

    Tried with Windows Disk management Utility. Hopeless too.

    Whatever I do with this now, saving the data is of paramount importance.
    So at this point -as you can see from the attached snippet- I could go either way.
    Your choice of 'repairs' method.


    Thank you

    Please note:
    Given the lack of space on the OS partition and the fact I could not control where the software I needed to load was installing and therefore would 'eat up' the scant 5 GB left on the said partition, I have temporarily swapped them and now the 1 TB HDD is in the Disk 0 spot (and is the boot disk)
    Please tell exact what's on each volume. "system reserved" is active now so it's most like your startup volume. Your running windows is on C: now. Correct?
    Tell what is purpose of other volumes
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