| Windows 7: Help with Technet subscription |
10 Aug 2009
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#1 | | Windows 7 Build 7600 Laptop and desktop. Also OSX 10.5.7 and 10.6 Snow on Laptop Hertfordshire, UK |
Help with Technet subscription Can anyone help?
been looking at buying a Technet subscription and not sure if this deal is any good.
There is a number of microsoft partners online offering subscriptions at really good prices, the trouble is some of these are listed as "Technet Subscription 2006" They are packaged units sent out in the post.
Now my thinking is the package they send you is the 2006 package but you would still have online access from day one for a year as if a normal M$ sign up.
Is this correct?
Some urgent help would be good as have to pay for this by morning and as i can get subscription in UK for £171 seems like a good price. | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built / Acer Aspire 7720G Laptop OS Windows 7 Build 7600 Laptop and desktop. Also OSX 10.5.7 and 10.6 Snow on Laptop CPU AMD Athlon64 Dual core 4200+ / Laptop T5750 Motherboard Gigabyte / Acer Aspire Memory 2 x 1Gb = 2 Gb / acer 3GB Graphics Card Geforce 8600GT / Geforce 9300M G 256Mb Sound Card Terratec DMX 6fire for Music production and X-Fi Xtreme Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 17" (Dell and Compaq) / 17" WXGA Laptop Screen Screen Resolution 1280x1024 / 1440x900 (Full HD when conneced to 32" LCD) Keyboard Logitech Cordless Keyboard Mouse Logitech Mx 700 PSU 400W + Not 100% sure Hard Drives 2x Sata 160GB 2x USB 300Gb 1x 160Gb IDE 1x USB 1TB / 250Gb Sata Laptop with Blu-ray drive Internet Speed 20 Meg Down / 1 Meg up Cable Other Info Konica Minolta Colour Laser printer, Epson Stylus R360 (Mostly used for printing on CD's/DVD's), Cannon Scanner, Mercury surround system, about 6 external hard drives all 200Gb plus along with the normall home entertainment stuff attached.... DBox 2, XBox 360, etc. etc. |
10 Aug 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
Buy the online subscription, using the coupon for $100 off (it now changes to a 25% off, not as much of a savings, but close) and get it for the download. Don't buy packages from anyone else - buy it from M$ directly. Trust me on this - the number of OS, products, and keys you get alone are more than worth it.... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
10 Aug 2009
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Keep in mind however that technet keys and software are intended for evaluation purpose only. They are not meant to be used on day-to-day machines in your home, office or otherwise. Lots of people seem to feel that technet is a legal way to get as many installs of all of those software packages that you want...and that is simply not the point of this program. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
10 Aug 2009
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate X64 Bellingham,MA |

Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt Buy the online subscription, using the coupon for $100 off (it now changes to a 25% off, not as much of a savings, but close) and get it for the download. Don't buy packages from anyone else - buy it from M$ directly. Trust me on this - the number of OS, products, and keys you get alone are more than worth it.... Listen to John, He is right it is better to get it from Microsoft then some other place, just trust us on this one. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP G60-230US OS Windows 7 Ultimate X64 CPU Intel Pentium Dual-Core T4200 @ 2.0 GHz Memory 4GB's Graphics Card Mobile Intel 45 Express Sound Card Conexant High Definition SmartAudio 221 Monitor(s) Displays 16" Screen Resolution 1366X768 Mouse Logitech M305 Hard Drives 320GB Internet Speed Cable |
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
It specifically states *not for use in production* - I take that to mean not for use in a business environment. That *does* include SOHO situations, but still - evaluation or not, it is legal for people to use those builds on their home machines. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
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Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt It specifically states *not for use in production* - I take that to mean not for use in a business environment. That *does* include SOHO situations, but still - evaluation or not, it is legal for people to use those builds on their home machines. No, I think this is incorrect. I've spoken with Microsoft in the past about this and their defined use of "production at home" was a day to day workstation. I was free to use the Technet software to evaluate a particular version of the OS..but if I wanted to install it permanently and use it as my daily OS, I was told "by Microsoft", that a full license would be required to be purchased.
Here is the link to the Technet FAQ: TechNet Plus Blog | IT Professional Community | Newsgroup Support
And specifically for home use it says, Quote: Can I use evaluation software received in my TechNet Plus subscription at home?
The license grants installation and use rights to one user only, for evaluation purposes, on any of the user’s devices, this may include devices at home. Keep in mind that you may use the evaluation software only to evaluate it. You may not use it in a live operating environment, a staging environment, or with data that has not been sufficiently backed up. You may not use the evaluation software for software development or in an application development environment. It's very clear to me, "it's eval software used to evaluate it".
To use it in any other advantage is to take advantage of the program and violate the license agreement. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
10 Aug 2009
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#7 | | Windows 7 Build 7600 Laptop and desktop. Also OSX 10.5.7 and 10.6 Snow on Laptop Hertfordshire, UK |
I understand the risks for buying outside of Microsoft and have indeed had subscriptions before including MSDN subscriptions but this is some time ago now and not signed up for a few years.
I ask about this as there is a couple of companies in the UK that are listed as Microsoft Partner/re-sellers and are quite well known. They are offering various deals with many being 2006 subscription packages. I just wondered what you are actually getting with these deals and what i lose out on.
Also one other question, if I was to buy the same package from a US based company selling same product for $190, what are the implecations of using a US based subscription in the UK?
Thanks again for the info and advice, just seems like great offers, and don't want to miss up a possible steal.
regards,
Alan
P.S. also been looking at a Bizspack subscription. Looks interesting and probably qualify. I have applied anyway. lol | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built / Acer Aspire 7720G Laptop OS Windows 7 Build 7600 Laptop and desktop. Also OSX 10.5.7 and 10.6 Snow on Laptop CPU AMD Athlon64 Dual core 4200+ / Laptop T5750 Motherboard Gigabyte / Acer Aspire Memory 2 x 1Gb = 2 Gb / acer 3GB Graphics Card Geforce 8600GT / Geforce 9300M G 256Mb Sound Card Terratec DMX 6fire for Music production and X-Fi Xtreme Monitor(s) Displays 2 x 17" (Dell and Compaq) / 17" WXGA Laptop Screen Screen Resolution 1280x1024 / 1440x900 (Full HD when conneced to 32" LCD) Keyboard Logitech Cordless Keyboard Mouse Logitech Mx 700 PSU 400W + Not 100% sure Hard Drives 2x Sata 160GB 2x USB 300Gb 1x 160Gb IDE 1x USB 1TB / 250Gb Sata Laptop with Blu-ray drive Internet Speed 20 Meg Down / 1 Meg up Cable Other Info Konica Minolta Colour Laser printer, Epson Stylus R360 (Mostly used for printing on CD's/DVD's), Cannon Scanner, Mercury surround system, about 6 external hard drives all 200Gb plus along with the normall home entertainment stuff attached.... DBox 2, XBox 360, etc. etc. |
10 Aug 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Somewhere on the 3rd rock from the sun. |
Quote: Can I use evaluation software received in my TechNet Plus subscription at home?
The license grants installation and use rights to one user only, for evaluation purposes, on any of the user’s devices, this may include devices at home. Keep in mind that you may use the evaluation software only to evaluate it. You may not use it in a live operating environment, a staging environment, or with data that has not been sufficiently backed up. You may not use the evaluation software for software development or in an application development environment. I see that as my ability to evaluate it - and by constantly installing and uninstalling applications, games, and drivers, checking for and reporting compatibility as I do here every day, I think that more than qualifies.
I'll be happy to call M$ if you think I am not following the rules... | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number The Beast Model V OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 965 EE @3.6 GHz Motherboard eVGA x58 Classified3 Memory 3 * 4GB Mushkin Enh Redline CL7 DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3-12800) Graphics Card eVGA 560 Ti 448 Core Classified + eVGA GTX260 SSC (PhysX) Sound Card Realtek HD Audio (on-board) Monitor(s) Displays 2 * Acer X213Wbd Screen Resolution 2 * 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G15 Keyboard Mouse Logitech Performance Mouse MX PSU ThermalTake BlackWidow TX TR2 850 W Case ThermalTake Level 10 GT (Black) Cooling Corsair H100 CPU | 2 * TT 140mm TriLED | 2 * Antec TriCool Hard Drives 1 * Intel Cheryville 520 180 GB SATA III SSD |
1 * Intel X-25M G2 80 GB SATA II SSD |
2 * Seagate 1 TB 32MB Cache 7200.12 SATA II Mech. Internet Speed Cable - 35 Mbit down / 12 Mbit up advertised (30 / 6 act.) Antivirus M$Se / MBAM Pro / WinPatrol Pro Browser Chome(dev) / Canary / Firefox Minefield / Opera Next / IE 10 Other Info Wacom Bamboo Touch |
Hauppauge WinTV-HVR-1850 |
Optimus STAV-3400 AV Receiver |
Bose 301 Series III Speakers (Main channel) |
Bose 161 Speakers (Surround) |
Optimus 3 way 100-W speaker (Center) |
Logitech Clearchat PC Wireless Headset |
Koss ProDJ 100 Headphones |
Microsoft LifeCam Studio |
Motorola Droid BIONIC |
ASUS Transformer Infinity 64GB |
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Quote: Originally Posted by johngalt I see that as my ability to evaluate it - and by constantly installing and uninstalling applications, games, and drivers, checking for and reporting compatibility as I do here every day, I think that more than qualifies.
I'll be happy to call M$ if you think I am not following the rules... Please do call them and ask them about it. Tell them that instead of buying 2 copies of Windows 7 and installing them on 2 workstations at home that you instead plan to buy 1 subscription to Technet and use that software instead because it's cheaper and you get all of this other software that you can use as well.
Please let us know exactly what they tell you.
What you are doing is not evaluating software. Evaluating software is trying it out for 30 days and seeing whether it meets your needs and then purchasing the required licenses if you plan to continue using it going forward. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
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Even MSDN, which has a much less restrictive license term than TechNet (you can use a MSDN license on any sort of system, as long as it's for devel/design/testing/demonstration), spells out the restrictions on home use pretty clearly: Quote: Many MSDN subscribers use a computer for mixed use—both design, development, testing, and demonstration of your programs (the use allowed under the MSDN Subscription license) and some other use. Using the software in any other way, such as for doing email, playing games, or editing a document is another use and is not covered by the MSDN Subscription license. When this happens, the underlying operating system must also be licensed normally by purchasing a regular copy of Windows such as the one that came with a new OEM PC. Basically, what johngalt is suggesting falls into this dual-use category: you may be "evaluating" the system, but you are also using it for other tasks, and if you continue to do so, then you will need an additional license for that.
Of course, MSFT never enforces this, so a lot of (most?) people use TechNet or MSDN like this. But technically they would all be violation of the license. | My System Specs | | Help with Technet subscription problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:48 AM. | |