| Windows 7: Windows End of Life Support |
15 Jan 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium SP1 Calgary, Alberta, Canada |
Windows End of Life Support Hey I had a question about Windows end of life support. I'm running Windows 7, which isn't supposed to expire for a while to come (no date set yet). Now, like many of us here, I like Windows 7. Why does Microsoft expire support for it's products? It's not because they want us to rush out and buy a copy of their new OS is it? Especially when Windows 7 works fine. So would it be possible to keep using Windows 7 in say 2030? | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium SP1 CPU Intel Core i7 2600K 4.5 GHz w/TurboBoost & HT enabled Motherboard Asus P8P67 Deluxe Rev. B3 Memory Kingston 16 GB DDR 3 RAM 1333 MHz Graphics Card EVGA GTX 670 4 GB Sound Card Asus Xonar DX Monitor(s) Displays Acer S243HL (triple monitors w/Nvidia Surround) Screen Resolution 5760x1080 PSU Corsair 850W Case Cooler Master Storm Scout Cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives WD Caviar Black 2 TB, WD Caviar Green 2 TB (x3), Crucial M4 256 GB SSD, Seagate 1 TB Internet Speed 100 Mbps Shaw Broadband 100 |
15 Jan 2012
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |

Quote: Originally Posted by magnetite Hey I had a question about Windows end of life support. I'm running Windows 7, which isn't supposed to expire for a while to come (no date set yet). Now, like many of us here, I like Windows 7. Why does Microsoft expire support for it's products? It's not because they want us to rush out and buy a copy of their new OS is it? Especially when Windows 7 works fine. So would it be possible to keep using Windows 7 in say 2030? Its more than just economics. At some point things change and with new devices coming out, it doesnt make sense to try and continue to develop drivers, and fixes for an OS that is being used by less and less users.
While possible, chances are you wont. Will you even still be using a traditional computer in 18 years?
If you like win 7, you will love win 8. Right now it is about to go beta and will be free until it is released to marketing in a year or so. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
15 Jan 2012
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You could keep using it (as long as you had hardware to run it), but Microsoft won't support it or release patches for it, and you won't be able to use newer hardware after a point when drivers stop being developed for it.
Microsoft supports "enterprise" products for 10 years after release, and "home use" products for 5. The reason for this is entirely economical - Microsoft has to pay people to provide support for the product, write and test security and non-security patches, etc. All of these things cost money (both in man-hours and also in test labs that can be used to build and test these products on hardware and virtualized, and in potentially thousands of different configurations), and as Microsoft produces newer versions of products, there are less bodies overall they can throw at the problem. Also (at least for Windows), the group that supports products once they pass certain milestones (usually Service Pack 1) supports *all* products at that level, which can be three and four major versions (for example, until Windows 2000 ended support in 2010, this group would be supporting Windows 2000, Windows XP, Windows Server 2003, Windows XP/Server 2003 x64, and Windows Vista/Server 2008). At some point, you have to cut ties with older code - it's not economically feasible (for the return on investment you'd get) to maintain a product forever, especially when there are 5 versions newer on the table (in the case of Windows 2000 in 2010, when it went End Of Life, or EOL). | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Z400 workstation OS Windows Server 2008 R2 CPU Intel Xeon 3550 @3.06GHz Motherboard HP Memory 16GB DDR3 Graphics Card Nvidia Quadro 600 Sound Card Realtek ALC262 Monitor(s) Displays 2x Hanns-G HG281 Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard Microsoft Natural Ergonomic Keyboard 7000 Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer 3.0 PSU HP Case HP Hard Drives 1x Samsung 160GB SSD
2x WD 1TB (RAID1) |
15 Jan 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
It's like old cars. Soon or later their come a time to up date. It just take to many dollars and hours to keep old Betsey on the road. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
15 Jan 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 Danbury, CT |

Quote: Originally Posted by magnetite Hey I had a question about Windows end of life support. I'm running Windows 7, which isn't supposed to expire for a while to come (no date set yet). Now, like many of us here, I like Windows 7. Why does Microsoft expire support for it's products? It's not because they want us to rush out and buy a copy of their new OS is it? Especially when Windows 7 works fine. So would it be possible to keep using Windows 7 in say 2030? Possible? I think so.
That assumes that you have hardware with drivers that support Windows 7, and that you don't need any security patches newer than the cutoff date. (If the machine is not connected to the internet, that would be OK.) It also assumes that you have software that'll run on Windows 7 at that time. I guess that you could stay with your current hardware and software, and hope that nothing breaks that can't be replaced.
I'm not sure how Microsoft would handle the Windows activation issue. Patch Windows 7 so that activation is not required, maybe.
Virtualization doesn't seem to have become wildly popular for desktop PCs at the moment, but maybe you'll be able to run Windows 7 on a virtual machine on your Windows 12 computer in 2030. (That's mostly a joke. I don't expect desktops PCs to be on the market in 2030.) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number homegrown OS Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1 CPU Intel Core I7-3930k Motherboard Asus P9X79 Pro Memory 16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133 Graphics Card eVGA GTX680 Sound Card Creative X-Fi Titanium Monitor(s) Displays As PA246Q Screen Resolution 1920 X 1200 Keyboard cheap Logitech USB Mouse Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB PSU PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire Case Silverstone FT02 Cooling Noctua NH-D14 Hard Drives Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black Internet Speed 6Mb cable Other Info Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers |
15 Jan 2012
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#6 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Quote: If you like win 7, you will love win 8. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
15 Jan 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit California |

Quote: Originally Posted by bobkn 
Quote: Originally Posted by magnetite Hey I had a question about Windows end of life support. I'm running Windows 7, which isn't supposed to expire for a while to come (no date set yet). Now, like many of us here, I like Windows 7. Why does Microsoft expire support for it's products? It's not because they want us to rush out and buy a copy of their new OS is it? Especially when Windows 7 works fine. So would it be possible to keep using Windows 7 in say 2030? Possible? I think so.
That assumes that you have hardware with drivers that support Windows 7, and that you don't need any security patches newer than the cutoff date. (If the machine is not connected to the internet, that would be OK.) It also assumes that you have software that'll run on Windows 7 at that time. I guess that you could stay with your current hardware and software, and hope that nothing breaks that can't be replaced.
I'm not sure how Microsoft would handle the Windows activation issue. Patch Windows 7 so that activation is not required, maybe.
Virtualization doesn't seem to have become wildly popular for desktop PCs at the moment, but maybe you'll be able to run Windows 7 on a virtual machine on your Windows 12 computer in 2030. (That's mostly a joke. I don't expect desktops PCs to be on the market in 2030.) I don't expect to be on the market either in 2030!  or at least won't remember my password, where I put the darn thing, or who I am chatting with but will be having fun chasing the ladies around the senior home.
THW | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP M9077c OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit CPU Intel(R)Core(TM)2 quad Q6600@2.4GHz 2.39GHz Motherboard ASUSeK Memory 6GB DDR2 6400 Graphics Card GeForce 8500/512MB Sound Card Realtek High Def Audio Monitor(s) Displays HP w2408 LCD 24" widescreen Screen Resolution 1920x1200 Keyboard MS wireless Inteli Mouse MS wireless Inteli Cooling 6 pack of Bud |
15 Jan 2012
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#8 | | W7 x64 3rd Rock from the Sun |
I would say, by 2030, USB will be an antiquity and will have been replaced by something far faster and superior, that the vast majority of what we'll be doing will be hosted remotely and we will be at IPv8 by then, and that home or business ethernet will have given way to fibre optics completely...
In short there will be nothing left for your Windows 7 antique machine to connect to... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built machine OS W7 x64 CPU Intel Q9300 2.5Ghz Quad LGA775 (Would like Q9650) Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45T-UD3R (F6 Bios) Memory 4Gb OCZ Gold 1,333Mhz Graphics Card Palit HD4850 O/C Sonic 512Mb DDR3, Dual DViD's Sound Card Azalia to twin Samson 50w Studio Monitors Monitor(s) Displays Twin Dell (E-IPS) U2311H 23.6" Screens Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 @ 60Hz Keyboard Cherry PS/2 custom model Mouse Lenovo USB laser "Thinkpad" Mouse PSU OCZ 600w Case Lian-Li PC8 acoustifoamed' aluminium tower Cooling Scythe 140mm Zipang Hard Drives Crucial M4 SSD, archives on twin Western Digital Caviar Black WD2002FAEX, 2TB, 7200rpm HDD's, Samsung Ritemaster CD/DVD Burner... Internet Speed ADSL2+ @14Mbps downstream & Cat6 Gigabit Ethernet Antivirus NOD32 Browser Opera Other Info Silicon Dust HD Homerun Dual FTA (Ethernet) TV Tuners, Dray Tek Vigor 2850Vn router and 8x HP Gigabit Switch. Lian-Li CR26 Card Reader, Canon MF4430 iSensys laser printer/scanner. Windows End of Life Support problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:44 AM. | |