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Windows 7: How to Rescue Windows 7 in the Event of SSD Failure

31 Jan 2012   #21
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

OK Martin, no problem. I think you need the drive letter because else you cannot select the partition here (see green arrow). In your case it would of course NOT be C:\.




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04 Feb 2012   #22
martinlest

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
 
 

Hi,

As soon as I moved the bootmgr to the C drive, Windows started taking much longer to boot up - about one minute now instead of just a few seconds - timed from when the 'Windows is Starting' message appears. So I've tried to move bootmgr back to the reserved partition, as it was, using EasyBCD - but although EasyBCD says it has 'successfully made drive Z the new boot partition', when I open the Disk Management window, it is still the C drive that is shown as the active boot partition, and booting still takes much longer. If I search the Reserved Partition, the file bootmgr is there - but if I perform the same search in the C drive, there is a bootmgr file there too.

How do I get things back to how they were? Any ideas why EasyBCD moved the boot files from the reserved partition to C:\ OK, but won't move them back again - it just seems to have copied them? (I did assign a drive letter to the reserved partition of course). I don't want to do anything that is going to prevent Windows from booting at all: if I somehow remove the boot files from C but the reserved partition is not shown as the active boot partition I am sure there will be disaster.

Wish I'd left this alone now!! I knew I was tempting fate...

Thanks,

Martin
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04 Feb 2012   #23
martinlest

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
 
 

Here's a screenshot of Disk management - after running EasyBCD the Reserved Partition (temporarily Z:\) is marked as System and Active, but not Boot (that's still C). EasyBCD won't move the boot partition to Z again...

(No idea why drive H is marked as 'Active' either - it's just a backup partition. How do I remove this attribute?).

Also see this link, which says that the Reserved Partition MUST be the boot partition in Windows 7, not the C drive. I read it too late:

Windows 7 System Reserved Partition (100mb) Active, not C:\ drive

Tried running the boot repair from the Windows 7 disc, but it reports that it can't find anything wrong.

M.


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04 Feb 2012   #24
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Well, I don't know what you did. But I have moved the bootmgr many times from the little partition to C and it always worked. You must have made some mistake.

As far as 'F' is concerned. I can only guess. Maybe there was an OS installed at one time or still is
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04 Feb 2012   #25
martinlest

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
 
 

Well I just did exactly the same as I did to move the boot partition to the C drive, only I chose 'Z' this time, the System Reserved partition. Can't see there's much room for making a mistake.

Whatever, my system now takes ten times as long to boot and I don't seem to be able to fix it. Certainly turns out, according to all other posts I have now read that you should not move bootmgr from the system partition to the C drive in Windows 7. maybe you don't agree with that though..

Martin
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04 Feb 2012   #26
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Martin, I am really sorry for your mishap. I feel a bit responsible because I am the author of the tutorial. But I never make a tutorial unless I have tried things myself.

I moved the bootmgr on my new Dell and on my new Toshiba laptop (both systems are on SSDs) and on a friends laptop. I also teach a Win7 class at the local computer club where disk management is a subject. 3 or 4 people had 4 primary partitions. We moved the bootmgr from the 100MB partitions to the C partitions and deleted the 100MB partitions. In all the above cases there were no incidents. So your situation puzzles me.
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04 Feb 2012   #27
martinlest

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
 
 

Well, I gave up on this and used a Windows 7 image (C drive + System Partition) I made a few days before I installed Macrium, so presumably my PC should back to how it was.

But it isn't - it still takes about a minute to boot from when the 'Windows is starting' message appears, much longer than before. If the C drive and System Partition were restored properly (and that certainly seems to be the case when I check - the confirmation at the end of restore showed 'successful' too) why still so slow? I don't understand it. I will probably have to troubleshoot this separately, see what is taking so long now compared to before.

Well, at least I know that the Windows 7 image file restores with no problem. Macrium of course has disappeared after the image restore, so I think I'll leave this as it is now. All that time wasted and I my PC is worse off than before... don't see what else I can do at this stage.

Martin
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05 Feb 2012   #28
martinlest

Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit
 
 

I wonder, when you have a moment, if you could read the thread I started re. slow boot times and let mke know if you have any advice?

Boot times - how best to analyse?

Thanks in advance!

Martin
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06 Feb 2012   #29
Britjoe

Window pro 8 64bit
 
 

Macrium is the way to go works well, I back up my C drive with it a couple of times a week, when I restore from Macrium I unplug every other Drive apart from the optical and obviously the C: drive, 8 minutes and its all done.

Ive found that the restore only works from a cold boot too, for some reason. a stock keyboard has to be plugged in, cause I run a Bluetooth normally.
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06 Feb 2012   #30
wanchoo

Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit
 
 

My advise or my two-penny bit on this is to begin right. The two right ways to begin are with or without the System Reserved Partition. For no particular reason I prefer the first way.

To follow my way, the only thing one has to do before starting the Windows 7 installation DVD is to partition the hard disk with the C Drive in such a way that there is no unallocated space remaining on it. If one goes the other way then one can let the Windows 7 installation DVD manage the partitioning.

But whichever path you choose, please don't tinker with it later in an attempt to change it to the other way and you shall never go wrong. After the OS is in place one can take the first image and then keep updating it after more programs get installed.

As they say, "Well begun is half done".


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by martinlest View Post
I wonder, when you have a moment, if you could read the thread I started re. slow boot times and let mke know if you have any advice?

Boot times - how best to analyse?

Thanks in advance!

Martin
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