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Windows 7: Task Manager will not run and SFC is unable to fix anything

22 Feb 2012   #21
Britton

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

LOL, come on it's not that bad. I do have some idea of what I'm doing over here

Everything else is running great, it was just task manager that disappeared. I believe that the Project64 emulator did it. It's plugin's would cause the emulator to not respond and I would use Task Manager to kill the process. I think by leaving the task manager running when the program crash occurred, is what caused the task manager to corrupt for some reason. I've yet to find a log that proves that event happened though. It's probably listed in there but its in some obscure system log in plain text and I'll probably never find it.


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22 Feb 2012   #22
gregrocker

 

If you are massively tweaking your Win7 install then please bookmark this link: Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions - Windows 7 Forums

Win7 is feather light and will not tolerate compound tweaking. All services not absolutely needed at startup are already set to Manual and on fast triggers.

You have corrupted Win7 System Files beyond repair which requires a Repair Install as you were already informed. We do not need to hear speculation about why our suggestions won't work, because they have already worked for tens of thousands of others.
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23 Feb 2012   #23
Britton

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote:
If you are massively tweaking your Win7 install then please bookmark this link: Blue Screen of Death (BSOD) Posting Instructions - Windows 7 Forums

Win7 is feather light and will not tolerate compound tweaking. All services not absolutely needed at startup are already set to Manual and on fast triggers.

You have corrupted Win7 System Files beyond repair which requires a Repair Install as you were already informed. We do not need to hear speculation about why our suggestions won't work, because they have already worked for tens of thousands of others.
So your telling me that by following the same guides posted on this very forum, that I have messed up my computer beyond hope? Yes that's right, I did the tweaks and and other various operating system how-to's listed on this site right here. If the guides posted on this site are going to mess up a person's computer then why do they get posted to a help forum? Huh? Answer that one. Maybe I used the wrong wording on my last post. So I will rephrase it and hopefully that will clear up any misunderstanding.

Sure my computer apparently has some problems, but there not critical or system halting with blue screens of death. I haven't had a BSOD during the entire time this install of Windows 7 has been active (Since 09-2011).

I came here looking for an answer to the Task Manager problem figuring it would be something simple, and I found that answer. That's all I wanted. The other post after the problem was fixed was just me being courteous and leaving additional information about the issue in case anyone else ever came looking for an answer.

I'm sorry if that came off as speculation or what you deem as me being inept and unwilling to redo my computer. I will do that at some point, just not right now. I'd prefer to try and fix the stuff listed in event viewer "by hand" so that I will learn from the experience, not just simply slap a new coat of paint on it and call it done. That's the easy way out and it's usually how I've recovered from low level errors in the past, once they became a super problem.

Now hopefully anyone else that reads this will understand why I'm not just going to patch over things with an upgrade install. I did that with Windows Vista the first time I installed Windows 7 and it never worked quite right straight from the get go. Ultimately I had to format and install a clean copy of Windows, but this was quite some time ago. I'm not afraid of doing a clean install or an in place upgrade, I'm just trying to not have to do that.

The only problem left seems to deal with the Reliability Monitor, it hasn't recorded any data since 2011 back when I had first installed this copy of Windows. I followed yet another guide from this site on how to fix that. It had me download a batch file and I ran it as admin, and it generated a list of logs and stuff that it was resetting. Then it had me reset the computer, but I won't be sure if it's fixed it until 24 hours has passed. I still don't think its fixed though, because the link to it in Performance Monitor under Monitoring Tools has vanished.

Now something like that, I'll probably have to do the in place upgrade to fix it, because apparently I'm a dumb ass and don't know what I'm doing.

Anyway thanks for all that have chimed in with their two cents, have a great day
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23 Feb 2012   #24
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

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The only problem left seems to deal with the Reliability Monitor, it hasn't recorded any data since 2011 back when I had first installed this copy of Windows. I followed yet another guide from this site on how to fix that. It had me download a batch file and I ran it as admin, and it generated a list of logs and stuff that it was resetting. Then it had me reset the computer, but I won't be sure if it's fixed it until 24 hours has passed. I still don't think its fixed though, because the link to it in Performance Monitor under Monitoring Tools has vanished.

Mine has not been working either. I did the batch file 3 different occasions over the past three weeks. It tells me it is gathering info but never does.
Everything on mine is working fine otherwise.

My suggestion just don't worry with it. To me it is one of those things that were not very useful to begin with.

Take care Britton.
Mike
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23 Feb 2012   #25
Hopalong X

Windows7 Pro 64bit SP-1; Windows XP Pro 32bit
 
 

I found this at MS.> How to Enable and Disable Reliability Monitor Data Collection - TechNet Articles - Home - TechNet Wiki

I clicked the History tab (center column) and it was disabled. I enabled after selecting.
I still don't know if it will work but I book marked the MS page.
I hope it helps.
Mike

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23 Feb 2012   #26
gregrocker

 

You said you were afraid to fix the unfixable System files because it might correct tweaks you had made to the operating System. Then you express outrage that I warn you about what tweaking Win7 has done to countless users.

I gave you the next step when you have unfixable System files if System File Checker can gain no traction after 2-3 passes, which is to run a Repair Install. If you want to ignore the best practice to tell us what needs fixing and doesn't, then you'll be operating with crippled Win7. But don't pretend like it's at all correct.
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23 Feb 2012   #27
HammerHead

win 7 X64 Ultimate SP1
 
 
Reliabilty Not Reliable

Here is two pdfs I saved when I was working on mine. One is what Hop has already posted and the other has to do with corrupt index files.

Attachment 199854
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23 Feb 2012   #28
Britton

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Yes Greg I understand my copy of windows is not working 100%. I have read your advice and I will more than likely do that at some point, but for now the system is working just the way I want it. The RAC not recording is something I can live without. So like Hopalong X said, don't worry about it. I do value your help and advice on my particular problem, and thank all of you for the wonderful help.

I'm going to check out that link you posted Hammer Head
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01 Mar 2013   #29
Britton

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Ha! I had forgot all about this forum post, guess I should post an update. I never did do the reinstall or upgrade over the current install.

I managed to figure it out with the help of the other guides posted in the forum. Now I can reset the reliability monitor anytime I like, and have it look nice and clean and still function. Turns out the RAC scheduled task was damaged and an automated batch file I got from here called Reset Reliability Monitor resolved that problem.

Just got around to installing Window's 7 SP1 and its support updates. Wasn't as bad as I had thought it would be. I kept putting it off because of all the nightmares with installing it that I had seen over the internet. Only reason I did it this time was beacuse Avast has this new feature in it that updates various software on the PC and in order to satisfy its notices I had to install SP1 to get IE10, a program I will probably never use. Thanks to the posts on this forum I've managed to keep this install of 7 running much longer than any of the other installs.

The tweeks I mentioned in the previous posts aren't anything important, mainly just custom icons for the user folder and open and closed folder views. As well as a custom login screen. I didn't even bother with changing the boot animation. Other tweeks are minor changes to the system services, such as turning off print spooler to stop the printer error message in Event Viewer. I had made some changes to .net framework but Windows has since undone those changes since it must need .net framwork for something.

I have looked into .net but it's use still seems vague. I am taking a stab in the dark here and am going to say it's some kind of programming language that windows and 3rd party applications use to display the windows file and folder interface. Which might explain why a certain program started to incorrectly display is dashboard screen (missing graphical elements in Registry Mechanic 11). Uninstall and reinstall of that program didn't fix it, so I just removed it and installed the open source program called little registry cleaner from source forge.

No registry cleaner will repair the registry to a new like condition, but it does remove many dead entries so I guess it's worth keeping around. Don't you just love computers!

As for the topic of this thread, hell I can't even remember why or when task manager stopped working. It simply started to work again on its own and I have not had any problems since the last post I made so long ago. Windows update seems to have fixed it up right this time.

Just reset the reliability monitor again today due to BSOD entries (sudden loss of power due to force reboot). The cause was not Windows 7, how can I be so sure? Well, recently I discovered that a strip of my RAM was defective, not bad for ram that's been running continuously since 2009. A single strip of bad Corsair DDR2 (1x1gb) was to blame and was probably the reason for about 99% of the issues I was having. Took the ram out a week ago and its been fine since, ordered some new ram for it a few days ago, it was time for an upgrade anyway. 8GB's coming soon!
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