Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account?

26 Feb 2012   #21
Kevin Ismail

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Hi.
Just want to share. There was one time in the past while running Win 7. An installing program required me to run as administrator, though I run it in elevated mode it persistently refused to go further. Did it few more times, it just didn't go.
As to entertain my curiosity, I desperately enabled the built in administrator through computer management, created password, and log on to it. What amazed me was that the program were able to install and work..!
Until now I just keep it to myself as a unique solution cause when I discussed it with friends, they just call it as an odd trick. (I totally couldn't recall it was a program or an update).

Kevin.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
26 Feb 2012   #22
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kevin Ismail View Post
Hi.
Just want to share. There was one time in the past while running Win 7. An installing program required me to run as administrator, though I run it in elevated mode it persistently refused to go further. Did it few more times, it just didn't go.
As to entertain my curiosity, I desperately enabled the built in administrator through computer management, created password, and log on to it. What amazed me was that the program were able to install and work..!
Until now I just keep it to myself as a unique solution cause when I discussed it with friends, they just call it as an odd trick. (I totally couldn't recall it was a program or an update).

Kevin.
Hello and thanks Kevin,
I know that there is exceptions to the rule.. But luckily I have not run into this difficulty yet, and I already can and have done enough damage in my current setup. Until I can take the time to understand the exact differences and reason, I am afraid.
For instance, I don't know what the Homegroup is for, and have never used it. Apparently I don't need to {:-))!
Glenn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
26 Feb 2012   #23
bbearren

7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
Where I get lost is the changing the properties to run as administrator. This would allow the other user account to have too much privilege in my limited understanding.
When you use the Advanced button on the shortcut Properties sheet and put a check next to "Run as administrator", all that does is eliminate the need to right-click the shortcut and click on "Run as administrator" each and every time you want to run the program. When you next left-click on the shortcut, you will still get the UAC popup, and still have to input the correct password for the Administrators Group account. If the other user account holder doesn't know and enter the password, the program won't run.
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
What I find confusing is when I install a program in the admin account as opposed to my user account. It seems in the first case, if I run the program in the user account it pops up asking for my admin password. If I do it in the user account it doesn't, when run.
That is not typical behavior. For example, I installed MS Office logged onto my Admin account so that it would be available for all users. When I click on an Office app shortcut in my Standard User account, it just runs - there is no UAC intervention. I have a number of programs installed in the same fashion, and they all work in the same way.

I do have a couple of programs that require Administrators Group privileges in order to run, and those do give me the UAC popup.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by glennc View Post
...I would like to get it in the All Programs menu in the Start Up tab. Again, haven't a clue.
To many pots on the stove. Thanks for your help!!
Glenn
Logon your Administrators Group account. Open Windows Explorer and navigate to that Program's folder. Right-click the executable and select "Create shortcut", then left-click an empty spot in the folder and select "Paste".

Next, right-click the shortcut you just created and drag it to the Start Orb and you should be able to pin it to the Start Menu. From there, it should be available to all users.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

27 Feb 2012   #24
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

I am beginning to understand! Thanks for your patience and helpful explanations!

Quote:
When you use the Advanced button on the shortcut Properties sheet and put a check next to "Run as administrator", all that does is eliminate the need to right-click the shortcut and click on "Run as administrator" each and every time you want to run the program. When you next left-click on the shortcut, you will still get the UAC popup, and still have to input the correct password for the Administrators Group account. If the other user account holder doesn't know and enter the password, the program won't run.
I get the above, finally it makes sense. Moon must be in the right phase!

Quote:
That is not typical behavior. For example, I installed MS Office logged onto my Admin account so that it would be available for all users. When I click on an Office app shortcut in my Standard User account, it just runs - there is no UAC intervention. I have a number of programs installed in the same fashion, and they all work in the same way.

I do have a couple of programs that require Administrators Group privileges in order to run, and those do give me the UAC popup.
I believe I get the concept of this, not comfortable, but the idea. Will have to remember to try it, depending on who I want to use the new program and the privileges I wish to assign!

Lastly as you posted I, I received instructions in a post just for that topic!

Thank you kind Sir! You have been a big help!
Cheers
Glenn
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account?




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
made guest account adminstrator cant change my account to adminstrator
hi, i accidentaly made my guest account adminstrator and also changed the name of the guest account and i cant change it to starndard user and change name,i cant even make my own account adminstrator dont know what to do please help
General Discussion
User account corrupted, administrator account not accessible
My Windows7 suddenly displayed a default desktop. I then did an unsuccessful system restore, tried the undo and got stuck. From there on, when I want to log in I end up at the error message "The user profile service failed the logon. User profile cannot be loaded". I tried to activate the...
BSOD Help and Support
Crippled Adminstrator account panic!
My pc is set up with a SSD holding Win7 64 bit pro and programs. I then have 2 HDD, one just for backup and the holding al lthe user account info and user files i.e. I changed the default location for user accounts from the SSD to this HD. I wanted to upgrade the backup drive to new bigger drive,...
General Discussion
I can't change a standard account to an Administrator Account!!!
I recently logged onto my account about 2 days ago to finish a project. The music file I used for the account was could not be found and when I went to locate it I was told I didn't have administrator rights. I went to Control Panel because I was sure I was an Administrator, but sure enough, I was...
General Discussion
Default User Account (Administrator) acts like Standard Account
I am using Windows 7 Pro 64x and apparently the default user account (Owner) that I use is not working correctly. Unless I have UAC set to Never Notify, I cannot open Control Panel or UAC again. When I try, I get the error message listed below. I have created a second user account as Administrator...
General Discussion
My Administrator account turned to Guest account
Hey guys. Im having a problem with my computer!somehow my administrator account has turned to a guest account. Today I tried to unistall a program and it didnt let me saying i needed to be admin. :(:(. Also I tried turning it to admin by using cmd command but it says access not allowed.
General Discussion


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:44.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App