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Windows 7: Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account?

24 Feb 2012   #1
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 
Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account?

Hello to all,
I am using W7 Ultimate 64 bits. I am have a what has been described on this forum as a quasi-administrator account. It is not called Administrator but seems to function as one. UAC prompts, when admin rights required in user accounts, this account's password will fulfil the requirement. Might someone care to discuss the differences, values and problems. Which should I be using??
I do my regular computing under a user account. I am lost at this depth of computerocrasy!
Thanks for any assistance!
Glenn


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24 Feb 2012   #2
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Glenn

If you havent changed the permissions there are only three types of accounts. Admin, Regular user, and guest.

What does your user say under your name in user CP?
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24 Feb 2012   #3
codekiddy

Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 Version 6.1 Build 7601
 
 

buit-in Administrator account is not the same as "user-created" Administrator account.

the differences are pretty obvious if you look into local security policy>local policies>local rights assigment
(run secpol.msc)

EDIT:
local security policy>local policies>security options
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24 Feb 2012   #4
zigzag3143

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

SU vs Admin for a regular user is a bit deep dont you think?
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24 Feb 2012   #5
logicearth

Windows 8.1 Pro (x64)
 
 

The difference...when UAC is on The User-Administrator account runs under Medium MIC until it elevates with UAC to High MIC. The By default disabled Administrator account runs with High MIC by default. That is purely the only difference. One has all the same power as the built in Administrator account once elevated.

See Mandatory Integrity Control: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandat...egrity_Control
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24 Feb 2012   #6
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Glenn

If you havent changed the permissions there are only three types of accounts. Admin, Regular user, and guest.

What does your user say under your name in user CP?
Hello and thanks,
Under the user name that is the administering account it say Administer Password Protected. Hope that helps.
Glenn
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24 Feb 2012   #7
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by codekiddy View Post
buit-in Administrator account is not the same as "user-created" Administrator account.

the differences are pretty obvious if you look into local security policy>local policies>local rights assigment
(run secpol.msc)

EDIT:
local security policy>local policies>security options
Hello codekiddy,
Unfortunately you might as well be speaking chinese with a lithuanian accent about brain surgery {:-))! I will look as far as I feel comfortable in secpol.msc, but as what exactly or where or for what, I am without sufficient knowledge.
Glenn
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24 Feb 2012   #8
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
SU vs Admin for a regular user is a bit deep dont you think?
Hello again,
I am not sure what your message is or to whom it was directed, sorry!
Glenn
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24 Feb 2012   #9
glennc

Windows 7 Ultimate
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
The difference...when UAC is on The User-Administrator account runs under Medium MIC until it elevates with UAC to High MIC. The By default disabled Administrator account runs with High MIC by default. That is purely the only difference. One has all the same power as the built in Administrator account once elevated.

See Mandatory Integrity Control: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandat...egrity_Control
Hello logicearth,
Are you saying under the user/administration account with the UAC it runs under a lower security and pops up the UAC box when it switches to the security/control level of the real Administrator account? I don't know MIC from a hole in the ground, honestly.... Thanks and I will look at the link with the hopes I can understand it!
Glenn
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24 Feb 2012   #10
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

When a user installs WIn7 or sets up a preinstalled computer, the account set up is an Administrator-level account since it's assumed this is the owner. It will allow changes after warning you by dimming the desktop and prompting about impending changes being made.

Inexperienced users are sometimes advised to set up in Control Panel a Standard User Account for regular use, as we helped you do last year Glenn. This will prompt for Admin password whenever changes are being made to the machine.

If you don't understand what changes are being made and their implications, I wouldn't proceed without asking here first.

The hidden Built-in Administrator account should only be used by the most experienced users - you know who you are. It also cannot serve a Standard User without another Administrative level account being present since when hidden the Built-in Admin account will fail to provide a box for prompted password resulting in an elevation stalemate which may require System Restore from boot.
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