| Windows 7: Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account? |
24 Feb 2012
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Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account? Hello to all,
I am using Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bits. I am have a what has been described on this forum as a quasi-administrator account. It is not called Administrator but seems to function as one. UAC prompts, when admin rights required in user accounts, this account's password will fulfil the requirement. Might someone care to discuss the differences, values and problems. Which should I be using??
I do my regular computing under a user account. I am lost at this depth of computerocrasy!
Thanks for any assistance!
Glenn | My System Specs |
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24 Feb 2012
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#2 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
Glenn
If you havent changed the permissions there are only three types of accounts. Admin, Regular user, and guest.
What does your user say under your name in user CP? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
24 Feb 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 Version 6.1 Build 7601 |
buit-in Administrator account is not the same as "user-created" Administrator account.
the differences are pretty obvious if you look into local security policy>local policies>local rights assigment (run secpol.msc)
EDIT: local security policy>local policies>security options | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Toshiba Satelite P300D 13J (Short model No: PSPDCE) OS Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1 Version 6.1 Build 7601 CPU x64bit AMD Turion(tm) X2 Ultra Dual-Core Mobile ZM-82 Memory 4096 (2048 + 2048) MB, DDR2 RAM (800 MHz), max 8,192 MB Graphics Card ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 3650+HyperMemory™(512MB VRAM+2302MB) Sound Card Manufacturer: harman/kardon Monitor(s) Displays Generic PnP Monitor (MONITOR\LPLA101) Screen Resolution 1440 x 900 (19" LCD) Keyboard USB Logitech S520 Mouse USB Logitech S520 PSU Batery: technology : lithium-ion Cooling integrated cooler + 3x external cooler Hard Drives HDD1: TOSHIBA MK3252GSX ATA Device (IDE 320 GB 5,400 o/min) ,
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24 Feb 2012
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#4 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
SU vs Admin for a regular user is a bit deep dont you think? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up |
24 Feb 2012
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The difference...when UAC is on The User-Administrator account runs under Medium MIC until it elevates with UAC to High MIC. The By default disabled Administrator account runs with High MIC by default. That is purely the only difference. One has all the same power as the built in Administrator account once elevated.
See Mandatory Integrity Control: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandat...egrity_Control | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
24 Feb 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 Glenn
If you havent changed the permissions there are only three types of accounts. Admin, Regular user, and guest.
What does your user say under your name in user CP? Hello and thanks,
Under the user name that is the administering account it say Administer Password Protected. Hope that helps.
Glenn | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
24 Feb 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by codekiddy buit-in Administrator account is not the same as "user-created" Administrator account.
the differences are pretty obvious if you look into local security policy>local policies>local rights assigment (run secpol.msc)
EDIT: local security policy>local policies>security options Hello codekiddy,
Unfortunately you might as well be speaking chinese with a lithuanian accent about brain surgery {:-))! I will look as far as I feel comfortable in secpol.msc, but as what exactly or where or for what, I am without sufficient knowledge.
Glenn | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
24 Feb 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 SU vs Admin for a regular user is a bit deep dont you think? Hello again,
I am not sure what your message is or to whom it was directed, sorry!
Glenn | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
24 Feb 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth The difference...when UAC is on The User-Administrator account runs under Medium MIC until it elevates with UAC to High MIC. The By default disabled Administrator account runs with High MIC by default. That is purely the only difference. One has all the same power as the built in Administrator account once elevated.
See Mandatory Integrity Control: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandat...egrity_Control Hello logicearth,
Are you saying under the user/administration account with the UAC it runs under a lower security and pops up the UAC box when it switches to the security/control level of the real Administrator account? I don't know MIC from a hole in the ground, honestly.... Thanks and I will look at the link with the hopes I can understand it!
Glenn | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU AMD Phenom-II X4 965 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA785GM-US2H Memory 8192 MB DDR2-SDRAM Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 Sound Card ATI Radeon HD 4200 High Definition Audo Monitor(s) Displays LG Electronics W1943 Screen Resolution 1360 X 768 Keyboard Acer Mouse Logitech PSU Ultra LSP 750 Case Ultra XBlaster Cooling 2 Fans, CPU Fan, PS Fan Hard Drives C: 500 GB Caviar Black SATA
E: 1 TB Caviar Green SATA Internet Speed 6 MB |
24 Feb 2012
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#10 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
When a user installs Windows 7 or sets up a preinstalled computer, the account set up is an Administrator-level account since it's assumed this is the owner. It will allow changes after warning you by dimming the desktop and prompting about impending changes being made.
Inexperienced users are sometimes advised to set up in Control Panel a Standard User Account for regular use, as we helped you do last year Glenn. This will prompt for Admin password whenever changes are being made to the machine.
If you don't understand what changes are being made and their implications, I wouldn't proceed without asking here first.
The hidden Built-in Administrator account should only be used by the most experienced users - you know who you are. It also cannot serve a Standard User without another Administrative level account being present since when hidden the Built-in Admin account will fail to provide a box for prompted password resulting in an elevation stalemate which may require System Restore from boot. | My System Specs | | Quasi-Administrator account versus a true Adminstrator Account? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:31 PM. | |