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Windows 7: very annoying problem: admin changes itself to standard


20 Aug 2009   #1

xp, w7
 
 
very annoying problem: admin changes itself to standard

hi everyone!
i am experiencing a very weird problem: i have 2 accounts - the first originally set to admin. then i created a second one and set that one to admin. now both accounts are "labeled" admin, but whenever i try to change the account setting they are set to "standard". trying to set either one to admin gives me no ok/proceed option. i seem to have no admin at the moment ?
very weird ......
markus

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20 Aug 2009   #2

Windows 7 Ultimate 32 bit
 
 

wow that is wierd. Do you still have all your admin permissions other then creating/changing accounts?
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20 Aug 2009   #3

Win 8 Release candidate 8400
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 149047 View Post
hi everyone!
i am experiencing a very weird problem: i have 2 accounts - the first originally set to admin. then i created a second one and set that one to admin. now both accounts are "labeled" admin, but whenever i try to change the account setting they are set to "standard". trying to set either one to admin gives me no ok/proceed option. i seem to have no admin at the moment ?
very weird ......
markus
Markus

Hi and welcome to seven forums

Are both accounts labeled "admin" or are they admin? You can label (name) a regular account admin but it will still have no admin rights

Ken
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20 Aug 2009   #4

xp, w7
 
 

ok - i do not understand all this any more. i can really need some help
inititally i had only one account (not only labeled admin, but being admin) - then i ran into security problems when Windows 7 suddenly told me that i do not own the rights to open certain folders. so i executed the ownership registry hack and nothing happened.
i created a second account (admin) and suddenly the hack worked as it should.
now, again, i find folders unaccessible. so i create a third admin account - and all works fine ...
unfortunately only in the accounts the changes have been made. going back to my account where everything is set up, amounts to ... folder restrictions.

am i doing something really wrong here?
markus
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20 Aug 2009   #5

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by zigzag3143 View Post
Markus

Hi and welcome to seven forums

Are both accounts labeled "admin" or are they admin? You can label (name) a regular account admin but it will still have no admin rights

Ken
Notice his specs. not exactly 100% complete. but

Quote:
OS xp, Windows 7
CPU q6600
Motherboard gigabyte p35 dq6
Memory 2x 4gb kingston 1066, hyperx cl5
Graphics Card x1950pro

so many Questions to ask ,
1. are youbooting back to XP?
2. Ken ask, Are you really Admin or just named Admin?
3. which OS are you using when you do this WEIRD thing?
4. some snip shots would grossy help! ?Windows 7 or XP
4a. name or file and or folders?
4b. which OS are they relating too?
5. Which Version is Windows 7? Home, Pro, Ultimate or ?
6. Which Product # -7000, 7100, 7600, or?
7. Which variable x86 or x64?
8. 9. 10. same question only for XP.
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21 Aug 2009   #6

xp, w7
 
 

thank you for trying to help !!!!!![


quote=Snuffy;233116]Notice his specs. not exactly 100% complete. but


so many Questions to ask ,
1. are you booting back to XP?
[/quote]
yes, sometimes to collect files and settings i want to transfer to windows 7

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
2. Ken ask, Are you really Admin or just named Admin?
well, both accounts i have were originally set to admin. going into the settings now and trying to change the privileges would let me only change to standard. ie: i guess that both accounts are still admin.

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3. which OS are you using when you do this WEIRD thing?
windows 7 7100 64bit. however the problems occurr on xp and Windows 7 32bit as well.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
4. some snip shots would grossy help! ?Windows 7 or XP
will post later today ...

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
4a. name or file and or folders?
i do not really understand ...


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
4b. which OS are they relating too?
how can i find out?

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
5. Which Version is Windows 7? Home, Pro, Ultimate or ?
windows 7 ultimate 64bit

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
6. Which Product # -7000, 7100, 7600, or?
7100

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
7. Which variable x86 or x64?
x64

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
8. 9. 10. same question only for XP.
xp 32bit sp3

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let me just jot down some notes on the problem history:
until last week i worked on xp & Windows 7 32bit. the i decided to add more ram to my system and so i fiddled around with the partitions so as to gain space for a Windows 7 64bit partition. i think here something must have gone wrong. because from then on i could not get access to an entire drive even under xp anymore. same problem in Windows 7. after a couple of day i managed to gain ownership in Windows 7 7100 (both32 & 64bit) over certain lost folders. they were suddenly marked with a keylock - however they seemed to be back and working. however yesterday i found that there was another partition i could not access. so i tried to gain ownership with and earlier posted registry hack - unfortunately to no avail. only by creating a new account with admin priviliges i could successfully access the partition. (that makes no sense however, because from my main user account its still locked)

thanks for helping,
markus
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21 Aug 2009   #7

xp, w7
 
 

ok i found something: when i want to get access to a file i hit (sorry i can only try to translate the steps, because i have a german version) so it goes something like: options->security>users>add users>advanced>search now> then i would add all results (in my case 38 possible names etc) and then add all of them. this would give me access to the file. ok, now i will only have to find out which one among the 38 is repsonsible for it ... any ideas?
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22 Aug 2009   #8

 

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then i would add all results (in my case 38 possible names etc) and then add all of them.
WOW, how many ppl have access to your computer. (Sounds like you have been HACKED-> (also possible that) you added a HDD usually, that was not NEW but well USED. and some info on it, from old users, wants permission to control your system.
Recommend that you go back to XP, Im sure it is CLEAN.
Format the HDD with Win 7, fix the partitions as you want.... scrub the HDD, reformat again. and when it is CLEAN...
Then your option is reinstall Win 7 - either single boot or dual boot.
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22 Aug 2009   #9

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by 149047 View Post
hi everyone!
i am experiencing a very weird problem: i have 2 accounts - the first originally set to admin. then i created a second one and set that one to admin. now both accounts are "labeled" admin, but whenever i try to change the account setting they are set to "standard". trying to set either one to admin gives me no ok/proceed option. i seem to have no admin at the moment ?
very weird ......
markus
Hello, Markus.

Are you sure you have a problem? Let me explain what I mean:

If the account type already is Administrator and you click Change the Account Type, it opens this window:

very annoying problem: admin changes itself to standard-change1.png

Notice that because there are only two account types, and because the account already is an Administrator account, Windows thinks you want to change it to Standard. That's why this window offers you Standard User pre-selected, and the Change Account Type button is lit and operational.

If you now choose Administrator, the Change Account Type button is not lit and operational because this account already is an Administrator account and there is no change to be made:

very annoying problem: admin changes itself to standard-change2.png

Kari


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22 Aug 2009   #10

xp, w7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Snuffy View Post
WOW, how many ppl have access to your computer. (Sounds like you have been HACKED-> (also possible that) you added a HDD usually, that was not NEW but well USED. and some info on it, from old users, wants permission to control your system.
Recommend that you go back to XP, Im sure it is CLEAN.
Format the HDD with Win 7, fix the partitions as you want.... scrub the HDD, reformat again. and when it is CLEAN...
Then your option is reinstall Win 7 - either single boot or dual boot.
well, take a look at the snippet - i could assume everyone has stuff like that on its machine ... what do you think?
markus


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