need some expert advice on how to spend my money

You could buy me a new boat

for example is this better than your reccommendation? why or why not
Newegg.com - Galaxy 58NLH5HS3PXZ GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Well, you aren't playing BF3, So a 580 is overkill. The 570 I showed you is plenty for your games.

i could be playing alliance of valiant arms, counter strike, team fortess 2 amnesia the dark descent, minecraft, gta iv with 1080p and graphics mod etc.

James7679 said:

Well, you aren't playing BF3, So a 580 is overkill. The 570 I showed you is plenty for your games.

hell he don't even need a 570 for what he plays he would be fine with a gtx 560ti

well ive obviousley had no experiance with high end graphics games but that does not mean that im not going to play them later once i get a gfx card, i mean most of the games that i bought wont even run on my computer so i had to sell them on craigslist and ebay

M1GU31 said:

James7679 said:

Well, you aren't playing BF3, So a 580 is overkill. The 570 I showed you is plenty for your games.

hell he don't even need a 570 for what he plays he would be fine with a gtx 560ti

That's true.

Paronomasia said:

because the graphics card looks really similar to something i can get for $200 or $250 and im really looking for more opinions and hoping that we can come to an agreement after long debate and have the one card that is perfect for my needs and price range

Not debate, rather discuss.

James7679 said:

M1GU31 said:

James7679 said:

Well, you aren't playing BF3, So a 580 is overkill. The 570 I showed you is plenty for your games.

hell he don't even need a 570 for what he plays he would be fine with a gtx 560ti

That's true.

Welcome back!

Why not just leave your old computer the way it is?

Then go purchase a nice aluminum ATX case to start with.

Save you money up and start building a game machine that rocks!