Windows 7 Forums

Welcome to Windows 7 Forums. Our forum is dedicated to helping you find support and solutions for any problems regarding your Windows 7 PC be it Dell, HP, Acer, Asus or a custom build. We also provide an extensive Windows 7 tutorial section that covers a wide range of tips and tricks.


Windows 7: Install personal programs to a partition separate from OS partition?

27 Mar 2012   #21
Skylark

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
1. That's one of the worst things you can do, in terms of the long-term use of your computer (shutting off updates)

. . .

2. You should always install the chipset drivers first, but after that, it shouldn't really matter.
Well, maybe I'll use your method for downloading Windows updates. But can you tell me: as these updates keep coming, do they pile up on the c:\ drive, or do they remove earlier ones and keep things slim? (I guess I've always had a fear that they'll eventually choke the space!)

Thanks again.


My System SpecsSystem Spec
.
27 Mar 2012   #22
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Most will update features and files already present on your computer. The space issue is really a non-issue. If you had been that worried about it to go so far as to turn them off, you could have always monitored your drive for a before and after, in terms of size. Your C drive shouldn't be that low on space anyway, where updates would cause any noticable space difference.

I'm typing now on a Dell Optiplex 360 that got Windows 7 in August of 2009 when it was made available to TechNet subscribers, and I haven't reinstalled once. It's running at the same speed and responsiveness as it was the day I first installed.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
27 Mar 2012   #23
gregrocker

 

The modern way to reinstall Win7 if it becomes irreparable is to re-image it to its partition in 20 minutes using built-in Win7 backup imaging or a freeware alternative like Macrium.
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
System Image Recovery

This is one reason to keep the data on a separate partition linked via Library - Include a Folder which is easier than moving User Folders - Change Default Location which can cause problems by insisting the data partition is then part of the System image.

This way when you re-image the OS/Programs partition the data set is current and waiting in its own partition.

However you do want the programs on the OS partition so they are part of the System image, and because they write Registry Keys to the OS which integrate them into it.

Set Updates to Automatic. They cause no problems in Win7 and aren't even visible to user in Win8 due to advancements made in Win7.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
.

27 Mar 2012   #24
Skylark

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
 
 

DeaconFrost, I haven't reconsidered the Windows updates business since way back, in 3.1 times. It seems things have really progressed. Thanks for the info.

gregrocker, thanks. I've already imaged the factory install onto 3 DVDs, so am reassured by that - should the recovery partition fail. And will download the Macrium utility to image OS plus progs, and data. Am grateful for your link to the libraries posting. Will study it in detail later. I guess it is all about ensuring that Win7 acknowledges where my documents are, given that they won't be on the c:\ drive as it is set up to expect?
My System SpecsSystem Spec
27 Mar 2012   #25
gregrocker

 

Recovery DIsks are different and really only needed for restoring the computer to factory condition for resale, etc.

Most tech enthusiasts want to start with a Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7 or at least to Clean Up Factory Bloatware.

Either way rely on a Win7 backup image of your customized install to fall back on in place of reinstall as it saves hours if not days.

I outlined the ways this works best which also require becoming familiar with libraries to easily right click>Add your files into, or moving the User folders to another partition. If at all possible Programs should remain on the same partition to be part of the image.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
27 Mar 2012   #26
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Set Updates to Automatic and ignore them.
What does that mean?

I thought Automatic means install them without user approval.
How can someone choose Automatic and ignore them?

Thanks, david

edit: nvm. I misunderstood. Makes sense now
My System SpecsSystem Spec
15 May 2013   #27
Richman1

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DeaconFrost View Post
You no longer have to worry about the OS becoming sluggish on it's own, as in XP. If
you practice good usage habits, you'll be fine.
I have never had XP become sluggish. Not so much a matter of good usage habits as it is good maintenance practices. Defragging, Keeping malware, spyware, crapware out an such. My Windows 7 is at the moment sluggish only because I faile to do routine maintenance, namely, I havn't ran Superantispyware, malwarebytes or spybot in a long time .....its been way too long. So it can happen and new Windows versions are not exempt from any of these issues although I agree bbearren saying it may be easyer to automate maintenance routines with the newer ones.

_________________________________________________________
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bbearren View Post
If one performs routine system maintenance regularly (much of which can be setup in

Task Manager to be taken care of automatically) uses a good AV such as MSE, and
practices safe surfing, there is no real need to reformat/reinstall Windows from time to
time, either. I haven't done a reformat/reinstall since Windows 95 OSR2.
I echo that remark, remark, remark ...........
_____________________________________________________________

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Skylark View Post
I was using Windows 3.1, many years ago, a number of my personal programs (like Microsoft Word,
for example) used to place *.ini files and certain other files into the c:\windows or system
directory.
Not just back in the days of Windows 3.1.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bbearren View Post
Microsoft Office 2010 insisted on placing a number of files on C:\Program Files, and
created the folder
Actually, from personal experience, not just MS Office 2010 but Office XP and Office 2007 also wanted to install files to the System drive (usually C: )


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bbearren View Post
(but I had reset the default path to Program Files in the registry),
Do tell. What registry entries and how many?


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Skylark View Post

tell me: as these updates keep coming, do they pile up on the c:\ drive, or do they remove earlier ones and keep things slim? (I guess I've always had a fear that they'll eventually choke the space!)

Thanks again.

Actually they, as DeaconFrost said, 'Most will update features and files already present on your computer.' However, there will be additional files as well. When I installed XP in 2002, the window dir was 900MB. After 6-8 monthes it grew to 1.2GB. After over a year it was 1.7GB and after 2 years it was over 2GB. Look at XP sp3 today and I believe it is over 7GB. OS's inevitably grow. Even linux in recent years has implimented network updates on their LTR's Of cours when I installed Windows 7 it was between 10-12GB with sp1 and after updates frew to 14GB.


Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus View Post

I agree, but

Someone may have to install programs on a different HD/Partition such as "D" because of space issues.
With a small SSD "C" Drive for the OS, it makes sense to install programs on a different HD "D" drive.
If I did that, I'd Image backup (and restore) both C and D together - to keep them and the registry synced.
I agree as that is probably the easiest and most foolproof. However. I have had
additional programs on another partition and my data on a third for some time on an XP
machine.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
gregrocker

Is that you with the surfboard and do you actually have a touch screen embedded in it? And if the response is yes I will have to say, "Are you kidding me you maniacally inclined megalomaniac.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
Reply

 Install personal programs to a partition separate from OS partition?




Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search




Similar help and support threads
Thread Forum
What happens if I install Windows 8 on a separate partition?
Hello everyone. I have a Windows 8 Consumer Preview DVD that I burned a couple of days ago, and, I was about to install it last night when I found FAQ for it. I read a post on how the Windows 7 partition only booted to the recovery mode, and that it wouldn't load. Ever since then, I've been...
Installation & Setup
Install windows to a separate partition
Hiya guys, I've been searching around for a way to install a copy of windows ultimate and keep the Users and programs on a separate drive. To expand a little better; I have a Toshiba satellite which keeps breaking and I've had to re-install 3 times in the last month. Unfortunately I'm a...
Installation & Setup
Is it possible to install programs on another partition by default?
I'm planing to reinstall Windows and wanted to know this. If you have anything that can help I will appreciate. Thank you for your time.
Software
Having a separate Data Partition?
Well last week on Saturday I reinstalled Windows 7. I completley didn't even think about having a different data partition, but thinking about it today, it seems like a better idea, so that way I can keep both the System and my data separate. Is there a easy but safe way to do this? Edit: I...
Performance & Maintenance
Separate Partition for OS and Apps?
BarefootKid is going to reach through the cloud and kill me I know but... I made 3 partitions on a 128G SSD. I installed Win7Pro64 on the first partition. Now I'm ready to install some programs and I just realized, I don't really want to change the default directories at all...I think that's...
Installation & Setup
Separate Data Partition - Why???
Hello, I have been reading about creating a data partition and an OS partition, but I cannot understand why one would want to do this because even with the system "image", the data files still need to be backed up. Why isn't it okay to back up the data files wth the system image? In my setup,...
General Discussion


Our Sites

Site Links

About Us

Find Us

Windows 7 Forums is an independent web site and has not been authorized, sponsored, or otherwise approved by Microsoft Corporation. "Windows 7" and related materials are trademarks of Microsoft Corp.

Designer Media Ltd

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:12.

Twitter Facebook Google+



Windows 7 Forums

Seven Forums Android App Seven Forums IOS App