| Windows 7: Changing User Permissions |
14 Apr 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit Auckland, New Zealand |
Changing User Permissions (Sorry if this is in the wrong area I cant find any area of this forums relating to user accounts).
So I changed my user account to the Windows 7 Super Admin account because I am easily annoyed when a computer tries to lock me out of areas :P I am completely okay with this and have no issues. However, many people keep telling me all about how this is a very bad thing to do, e.g. if I get a virus the virus has full control of my system. I dont disagree with this and I can understand it, I just find the benefits of super admin outweigh the risk considering I generally know what I am doing, how to avoid viruses, etc.
I have considered though swapping back to a regular admin account and enabling UAC, however there is so much data, programs installed, program preferences, etc stored on my user, last time I changed it was about a month before things were back to normal. Does anyone know how I could just change the permissions of my current account (the super admin account)?
I somehow doubt it is possible, considering this is the super admin account, if anyone instead knows of a good user migration tool that can transfer data from user to user that would also be great.
Thanks | My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770k 3.5ghz Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory Corsair Vengeance 16gb (4x4gb) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD Raedon 7950 OC 1200/1600mhz core/mem Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6" (main) HP 1730 (side) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 gaming keyboard Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair AX-650W ATX Case Corsair 500R black Cooling Corsair 500r Stock cooling (3x120mm, 1x200mm) & Corsair H100 Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - 64mb cache
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 32mb cache
Samsung 830 SSD 128Gb Boot Drive Other Info Corsair Hydro 100 CPU Cooler |
21 Apr 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit London, UK |
If you were to change the permissions which applied to your current account, you would effectively be changing the permissions for the system admin account. Anything executed or done as system admin would be within the confines of the set parameters, which may have an effect on certain applications, depending on how they are coded.
To draw comparison, its like having superuser and user in linux, and allowing su only to do what user can do, thus eliminating any possibility of using elevated permissions through su (su or sudo would still happen, superuser still exists, but permissions would be rejected)
It is slightly different with Windows 7, and it wouldn't be that drastic, but there are some processes I believe which rely on the system administrator account.
That being said, I'm not sure how you would go about stripping the Sytem Admin account of its power in the first place, or even if its possible.
I sounded much more helpful in my head than I actually was. Ah well :/ | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel Core i5 2500k @ 3.3GHz (soon to change) Motherboard ASUS P8Z 68-V LX Memory 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 (Generic) Graphics Card MSI Nvidia GTX 550 Ti 1024MB GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Bush TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Tesco Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Technika wireless mouse PSU EZCOOL Ambience 80+ 700W Case Coolermaster 430 Elite Cooling Air Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD
Seagate Barracuda Sata 3 500GB HDD |
21 Apr 2012
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#3 | | 7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64 Polk County, Central Florida |
What do you mean by "super admin account"? | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 580 OS 7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel i3 550 3.2 GHz Motherboard Dell/Intel H57 Memory Corsair 16 GB DDR3 (4 X 4GB) Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics Sound Card Intel P55 HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG E2360 LED Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 PSU Dell 300W Case Dell Inspiron Cooling Dell/Intel Hard Drives Seagate 1TB X 2 Internal,
Seagate 1TB eSATA (Backup) Internet Speed 4,000 Mbit DSL Other Info Custom Installation -
OS separate on C:
Pagefile Separate on P:
Program Files Separate on U:
Users and ProgramData separate on V: |
21 Apr 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit Auckland, New Zealand |
Sorry, its a term I picked up in a how-to a while back :P Its the hidden windows 7 administrator account, i.e. the account with control over everything without any need for verification. This can be a risk because if a virus runs while this account is logged in, the virus also has permission/control over everything.
And thanks for the help ozzy, I was hoping to do something like that but like you im a little stumped as to how to go about it :P. I shall have a bit more of a look around. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770k 3.5ghz Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory Corsair Vengeance 16gb (4x4gb) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD Raedon 7950 OC 1200/1600mhz core/mem Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6" (main) HP 1730 (side) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 gaming keyboard Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair AX-650W ATX Case Corsair 500R black Cooling Corsair 500r Stock cooling (3x120mm, 1x200mm) & Corsair H100 Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - 64mb cache
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 32mb cache
Samsung 830 SSD 128Gb Boot Drive Other Info Corsair Hydro 100 CPU Cooler |
22 Apr 2012
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#5 | | 7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64 Polk County, Central Florida |
I don't think there's a lot that can be done to the default Windows Administrator account other than enable it or disable it. I don't think you can change the privilige level on that account. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 580 OS 7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel i3 550 3.2 GHz Motherboard Dell/Intel H57 Memory Corsair 16 GB DDR3 (4 X 4GB) Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics Sound Card Intel P55 HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG E2360 LED Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 PSU Dell 300W Case Dell Inspiron Cooling Dell/Intel Hard Drives Seagate 1TB X 2 Internal,
Seagate 1TB eSATA (Backup) Internet Speed 4,000 Mbit DSL Other Info Custom Installation -
OS separate on C:
Pagefile Separate on P:
Program Files Separate on U:
Users and ProgramData separate on V: |
22 Apr 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 Nottingham, England |
I thought that too. It was my understanding that privilege levels in the Admin account were not changeable and you had to set up a new account as admin to change privileges. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Dimension 9200 (XPS 410) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4Ghz Motherboard Intel P965 Express Chipset - Dell Inc. 0CT017 Memory 4GB - HYMP512U64CP8-Y5 Graphics Card nVidia GeForce 8600GTS Monitor(s) Displays DELL 22" E228WFP Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard Logitech Cordless Desktop MX3000 Mouse Logitech Laser Mouse MX3000 Hard Drives 2x Western Digital WD3200AAKS
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Broadcom 802.11g Wireless Network Adapter
Sony Optiarc DVD RW AD-7241S
Lite-On BD-RE iHBS112
TEAC CA-200 19-in-1 Media Card Reader
HP Photosmart 8450 Printer |
22 Apr 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit London, UK |
It would make logical sense, as an account lower in the 'hierarchy' i.e. less privileges cutting privileges for a higher privileges account would seem odd.
If you want to avoid having to set-up a new account, you could always migrate settings to a new Admin with UAC disabled. (Sorry, I forget how - there should be a tutorial around somewhere) | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64bit CPU Intel Core i5 2500k @ 3.3GHz (soon to change) Motherboard ASUS P8Z 68-V LX Memory 8GB 1333MHz DDR3 (Generic) Graphics Card MSI Nvidia GTX 550 Ti 1024MB GDDR5 Monitor(s) Displays Bush TV Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Tesco Multimedia Keyboard Mouse Technika wireless mouse PSU EZCOOL Ambience 80+ 700W Case Coolermaster 430 Elite Cooling Air Hard Drives OCZ Agility 3 60GB SSD
Seagate Barracuda Sata 3 500GB HDD |
22 Apr 2012
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#8 | | |
Let me clear up a few things. There is no Super Admin account. The Administrator account that is disabled by default is not more powerful. The only thing about it is that it runs elevated all the time. While those part of the Administrators group run with a dual token and require elevation to a high level at request.
However, you can change it...from Local Security Policy. Quote: User Account Control: Use Admin Approval Mode for the built-in Administrator account
This policy setting controls the behavior of Admin Approval Mode for the built-in Administrator account.
The options are:
• Enabled: The built-in Administrator account uses Admin Approval Mode. By default, any operation that requires elevation of privilege will prompt the user to approve the operation.
• Disabled: (Default) The built-in Administrator account runs all applications with full administrative privilege. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 PSU 875W Some Dell PSU <.< Hard Drives Samsung P830 256 GB, WD Raptor 150GB, 2x 1TB HDDs Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) |
22 Apr 2012
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#9 | | 7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64 Polk County, Central Florida |

Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth Let me clear up a few things. There is no Super Admin account. The Administrator account that is disabled by default is not more powerful. I have found that there are a few registry settings that will respond only to the default Windows Administrator account, and to no other account in the Adminstrators Group. That indicates to me that there are a couple or two privileges the default Windows Administrator account has that the Administrators Group does not have. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Inspiron 580 OS 7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64 CPU Intel i3 550 3.2 GHz Motherboard Dell/Intel H57 Memory Corsair 16 GB DDR3 (4 X 4GB) Graphics Card Intel HD Graphics Sound Card Intel P55 HD Audio Monitor(s) Displays LG E2360 LED Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 Keyboard Microsoft Wireless Comfort Keyboard 5000 Mouse Microsoft Wireless Mouse 5000 PSU Dell 300W Case Dell Inspiron Cooling Dell/Intel Hard Drives Seagate 1TB X 2 Internal,
Seagate 1TB eSATA (Backup) Internet Speed 4,000 Mbit DSL Other Info Custom Installation -
OS separate on C:
Pagefile Separate on P:
Program Files Separate on U:
Users and ProgramData separate on V: |
23 Apr 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Professional 64bit Auckland, New Zealand |
Well I can understand what is being said of the default administrator account, but when I compare it with the admin account I had previously, it asked me about literally everything to do with system files, appdata, program files, anything in C:/WINDOWS, etc. I tried to get this to stop but didnt have much luck (Yes I was undoubtedly doing a lot wrong, I was new to windows 7 at the time). Now using the Windows 7 default admin account, no change of privileges I can do seems to change anything, I can still do what ever I want whenever. Like I say, this is exactly what I want, but its a security risk.
Logicearth could you tell me how I enable admin mode approval? And are you able to tell me if this will potentially block a virus should it have control within the account and attempt to make registry changes and such?
Thanks for the help so far guys  It might not seem much like it but I'm getting somewhere | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Professional 64bit CPU Intel i7 3770k 3.5ghz Motherboard Asus P8Z77-V Deluxe Memory Corsair Vengeance 16gb (4x4gb) Graphics Card Gigabyte GV-R795WF3-3GD Raedon 7950 OC 1200/1600mhz core/mem Sound Card None Monitor(s) Displays AOC 23.6" (main) HP 1730 (side) Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech G110 gaming keyboard Mouse Gigabyte M6900 PSU Corsair AX-650W ATX Case Corsair 500R black Cooling Corsair 500r Stock cooling (3x120mm, 1x200mm) & Corsair H100 Hard Drives Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB - 64mb cache
Western Digital Caviar Green 1TB - 32mb cache
Samsung 830 SSD 128Gb Boot Drive Other Info Corsair Hydro 100 CPU Cooler Changing User Permissions problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:57 AM. | |