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Windows 7: bootmgr problem, system working with win7 DVD

27 Apr 2012   #11
Kaktussoft

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Because win7 is starting fine with DVD inserted it must be a small problem. Let me explain waht's the difference

from DVD:
  • system reads bootsector of dvd and executes it. It displays "press any key to start from cd/dvd".
  • You don't press a key so it continues to start from harddisk.
  • It searches for first active partition and loads its bootsector. Or it loads bootmgr directly (no sure, but I think the first)
For hardisk:
  • it loads and executes MBR. Simple small program that looks for first active partition and loads and excutes it's bootsector
  • in bootsector is code to load bootmgr
  • bootmgr reads the bcd menu and you can select an operating system (not displayed as you have only one)
MBR is fine. At least I think he loads bootsector. Then he can't find bootmgr?? (message comes from bootsector).
Maybe bootsector is corrupt and looks on wrong folder?
Maybe MBR is corrupt (but then this message shouldn't appear). Maybe this is a fake message from a mbr-virus?

Totally confused. Have seen this 2 times earlier!! I know a solution. First waiting for reply


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27 Apr 2012   #12
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yoknee View Post
Microsoft Windows [versio 6.1.7601]
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C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit

Windowsin käynnistyksen hallintaohjelma
---------------------------------------
tunnus {bootmgr}
device boot
path \bootmgr
description Windows Boot Manager
locale fi-FI
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {-----------------------}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windowsin lataaminen
--------------------
tunnus {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale fi-FI
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {---------------------}
nx OptIn

C:\Windows\system32>
Bootmenu is fine. Did you already mark D as inactive?
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27 Apr 2012   #13
Kaktussoft

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delete d:\bootmgr and d:\boot (folder) as well. They are useless!! Both are hidden system files.
Nothing to do with problem btw. Mark D as inactive
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27 Apr 2012   #14
Kaktussoft

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You know this screen because you did startup repair


Select "command prompt" there. Now do:
Code:
bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot
Both commands are executed succesfuly? If so, try to reboot normally
(you can also execute only one of the commands to see if that's enough)


The /FixMbr option writes a Windows 7 or Windows Vista-compatible MBR to the system partition. This option does not overwrite the existing partition table. Use this option when you must resolve MBR corruption issues, or when you have to remove non-standard code from the MBR.


The /FixBoot option writes a new boot sector to the system partition by using a boot sector that is compatible with Windows Vista or Windows 7.
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27 Apr 2012   #15
Yoknee

windows7 64bit home premium
 
 

Bootmenu is fine. Did you already mark D as inactive?[/QUOTE]

ive now sucessfully marked D drive as inactive. Just took me some time to get the PC back up but still hade to with the CD.
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27 Apr 2012   #16
Yoknee

windows7 64bit home premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
delete d:\bootmgr and d:\boot (folder) as well. They are useless!! Both are hidden system files.
Nothing to do with problem btw. Mark D as inactive
i did have a bootmgr file in there, but delated that some time ago already.
never seen a boot folder in the D though. I also opened up the hidden files and D drive is empty.
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27 Apr 2012   #17
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yoknee View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
delete d:\bootmgr and d:\boot (folder) as well. They are useless!! Both are hidden system files.
Nothing to do with problem btw. Mark D as inactive
i did have a bootmgr file in there, but delated that some time ago already.
never seen a boot folder in the D though. I also opened up the hidden files and D drive is empty.
You can see that boot folder on C? It should be there is definitely there. Has nothing to do with problem btw
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27 Apr 2012   #18
Kaktussoft

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In recovery environment->command prompt

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot

Already done? That should solve the problem
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27 Apr 2012   #19
Duzzy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Do you have the bootmgr file in C:?
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27 Apr 2012   #20
Yoknee

windows7 64bit home premium
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
In recovery environment->command prompt

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot

Already done? That should solve the problem
ok did that now.
when restarted it pulled out the CD and it didnt work, got a message something that boot dosnt work, then hade to go back into the repair/recovery to get it back up with the CD.
btw. i dont have an other PC here, so this is the only way to get online.

Yes, C drive has a boot folder in the windows folder.
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