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Windows 7: bootmgr problem, system working with win7 DVD

27 Apr 2012   #41
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yoknee View Post
ok got message : disc boot failure, insert system disk and press enter.
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Normally that means that the disk doesn't have an "active" partition. Who the heck did change that ... grrrr


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27 Apr 2012   #42
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Mark the Win7 partition Active: Partition - Mark as Active

Boot into Win7 DVD or System Repair Disk to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times until Win7 boots on its own.

To do this unplug D which can interfere if it has old boot code on it, and should have its data moved off to wipe using Diskpart Clean Command from DVD. DISKPART At PC Startup
Hi gregrocker can you help? Only one partition is marked active. bcd store looks fine, bootsector and mbr have been refreshed by bootrec/fixmbr and /fixboot.

System boot fine with dvd inserted. After "press any key to start from CD" and not pressing any key... system boots from harddisk normally!!!! What is the difference between normal booting from harddisk (it gives missing bootmgr) and this way?
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27 Apr 2012   #43
Yoknee

windows7 64bit home premium
 
 

forgot to look into the D drive after post about the hidden folders and files i didnt know about, and found 2 folders:
- system volume information (cant delate it)
- $Recycle bin thats got a locked bin it. Took a look in there and there was 2 bootbgr files in there, delated them. In there was 4 or 5 bullet folders with nothing in them. Delated them also. However delating the $recycle bin, it pops back up again with the locked bin it - empty however.

Ive been delating these bullet folders that come onto desktop everytime i startup windows. Probably 100 in the past weeks. There empty always.

after this i tryed the command prompt again but nothing changed.
I have however got locking up problems now so cant get that dialog coz always when it starts the startup fix it locks up and i have to reboot the PC.
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27 Apr 2012   #44
Kaktussoft

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- system volume information (cant delate it)=> used for system restore
- $Recycle Bin => your waste basket (if you delete files)

All very normal!! Bullet folders???? I don't understand... nothing to do with problem
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27 Apr 2012   #45
Duzzy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

system volume information and $Recycle.bin will appear on any formatted drive these are windows files that should be left alone although what you've done I don't think should be causing boot problems.

Edit: Umm what Kaktussoft said, beat me to it.

Follow Greg's advice he's pretty good at fixing boot problems.
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27 Apr 2012   #46
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Yoknee View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
So bootrec commands made your dsik unbootable. Normally so now you get "missing bootmgr" again?

What did "startup repair" fix and see as errors? There is an option like "view diagnostic details". click on it and see what errors there are.

Sorry to say... do the bootrec trick again. First only bootrec/fixmbr please
and then startup repair and view the diagnotics details

Are you sure bootrec/fixmbr succeeds succesfully?
no, dont get the missing bootmgr with bootrec.
soon as i hit edit, its done within the second. it just says done.
I think it dosnt do it realy.

Ok, ill do it again. and view the diagnotics.
in recovery environment command prompt:

dir c:\
sure that's windows partition?

bootsect /nt60 C: /force /mbr
bootsect /nt60 C: /force

actually the same as bootrec/fixmbr and fixboot. But gives you more output!
Sample output
bootsect /nt60 e: /force

Target volumes will be updated with BOOTMGR compatible bootcode.

E: (\\?\Volume{d2602ac3-ded6-11e0-a821-806e6f6e6963})

Forced dismount complete, open handles to this volume are now invalid.

Successfully updated NTFS filesystem bootcode.

Bootcode was successfully updated on all targeted volumes.
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Both Bootsect commands ended successfully? And then after a restart "missing bootmgr" or "insert system disk"?
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27 Apr 2012   #47
gregrocker

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Mark the Win7 partition Active: Partition - Mark as Active

Boot into Win7 DVD or System Repair Disk to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times until Win7 boots on its own.

To do this unplug D which can interfere if it has old boot code on it, and should have its data moved off to wipe using Diskpart Clean Command from DVD. DISKPART At PC Startup
Hi gregrocker can you help? Only one partition is marked active. bcd store looks fine, bootsector and mbr have been refreshed by bootrec/fixmbr and /fixboot.

System boot fine with dvd inserted. After "press any key to start from CD" and not pressing any key... system boots from harddisk normally!!!! What is the difference between normal booting from harddisk (it gives missing bootmgr) and this way?
The steps I gave above will normally remedy that condition so I am wondering why they are not being completed.

In reading the thread it seemed OP was not guided to mark the Win7 partition Active, although another Active partition was suggested to be marked Inactive. Partition - Mark as Inactive - Windows 7 Forums.

Startup Repair will not write, repair or rewrite the System boot files until you tell it which partition by marking it Active. Partition - Mark as Active

Perhaps we should see the latest Disk Mgmt Screen Shot.
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27 Apr 2012   #48
Kaktussoft

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Can you (temporay) detach secondary disk (so D)? When done try to boot normally. If same problem then "startup repair" and do "startup repair 3 times with reboot in between. Post results
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27 Apr 2012   #49
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Mark the Win7 partition Active: Partition - Mark as Active

Boot into Win7 DVD or System Repair Disk to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times until Win7 boots on its own.

To do this unplug D which can interfere if it has old boot code on it, and should have its data moved off to wipe using Diskpart Clean Command from DVD. DISKPART At PC Startup
Hi gregrocker can you help? Only one partition is marked active. bcd store looks fine, bootsector and mbr have been refreshed by bootrec/fixmbr and /fixboot.

System boot fine with dvd inserted. After "press any key to start from CD" and not pressing any key... system boots from harddisk normally!!!! What is the difference between normal booting from harddisk (it gives missing bootmgr) and this way?
The steps I gave above will normally remedy that condition so I am wondering why they are not being completed.

In reading the thread it seemed OP was not guided to mark the Win7 partition Active, although another Active partition was suggested to be marked Inactive. Partition - Mark as Inactive - Windows 7 Forums.

Startup Repair will not write, repair or rewrite the System boot files until you tell it which partition by marking it Active. Partition - Mark as Active

Perhaps we should see the latest Disk Mgmt Screen Shot.
Screenshot shows his C-drive as active. "startup repair" lists his win7 installation. bootrec/fixboot and /fixmbr ran succesfully.

Detaching has second disk is a good suggestion Greg!! But no active partitions anymore on that disk. Hope this solves the issue
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27 Apr 2012   #50
Duzzy

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
In reading the thread it seemed OP was not guided to mark the Win7 partition Active, although another Active partition was suggested to be marked Inactive. Partition - Mark as Inactive - Windows 7 Forums

Perhaps we should see the latest Disk Mgmt Screen Shot.
Well he did say in a post that C: and D: were marked active although in his screenshot we cannot see if C: actually was.

In the latest screenshot I would suggest expanding the width of the Status (Tila) column so we can see everything.
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