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Windows 7: Suggestions for delaying Startup programs- my new SSD is too fast!

30 Apr 2012   #1

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 
Suggestions for delaying Startup programs- my new SSD is too fast!

I just purchased a new Acer 4830TG (i5 2.5 GHz) and immediately replaced the HD with a SanDisk Extreme (550 MB/s read, 510 MB/s write).

I have certain programs in the Startup folder- Excel workspace (6 spreadsheets) for my business, Word, Firefox (with approx 35 tabs) and Thunderbird. I like to hit the power button, enter my password, then go make my coffee and come back to find everything loaded and my morning emails all downloaded (4 different accounts).

Except now Firefox and Thunderbird are loading so fast the wireless network has not finished connecting before they start sending requests, and of course I am getting network connection errors.

I can't believe I am actually having to ask this, but does anyone have any suggestions for freebie programs that can delay the loading of programs in the startup folder? Or tell me how to write a batch file of some kind that call these programs with a delay scripted in?

Thanks

(PS without loading those programs boot times are less than 20 seconds- I am very happy with that part of it)

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30 Apr 2012   #2

Windows 8.1 Pro w/Media Center 64bit, Windows 7 HP 64bit
 
 

BillP Studios - WinPatrol 2012 has a delay start feature and you can control the time. It is also a highly recommended security program that monitors you system. Give the free version a try and see how it works out.

Jim
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30 Apr 2012   #3

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7600
 
 

here you go, its all in 7 already

Delay launch of applications at Windows 7 startup
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30 Apr 2012   #4
Microsoft MVP

 

Why do you need any freeloaders to Startup at all except your AV and gadgets/stickies if you use them?

The very best performance comes with running a Clean Boot at all times. Click on a program to start it.

There are several steps to achieve this given here: Clean Up Factory Bloatware
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30 Apr 2012   #5

Desk Top with Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Lap Top with Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Why do you need any freeloaders to Startup at all except your AV and gadgets/stickies if you use them?

The very best performance comes with running a Clean Boot at all times. Click on a program to start it.

There are several steps to achieve this given here: Clean Up Factory Bloatware
I totally agree with that. There are far too many things that want to run in the back ground. I, too, get into MSCONFIG and select "Selective startup", then on the Startup tab, I unchecd most of the stuff except my anti-malware stuff.
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30 Apr 2012   #6

7 Ultimate x64/7 Home Premium x64
 
 

My routine maintenance is done by Task Scheduler at night while I sleep. I seldom shut down, so startup is not an issue. My laptops hibernate, so startup is not an issue with them, either.

As for performance, my PC is already way faster than I am, so any increase would not really be noticable. As for SSD's, when their $/GB matches or beats spinners, I might consider one.
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30 Apr 2012   #7

Windows 7 Home Premium
 
 

The link was for services, and most of the talk here is more of the same. My problem is with the apps I am loading, FF and Thunderbird are working before the networking is ready.

While I agree clean boots are probably wonderful, I am interested in efficiency- if I have a computer that can load all my work programs automatically, why wouldn't I? This is not the 1980's, and this computer is not my Tandy 1000 that had to boot from a floppy, then remove the floppy, then insert my program disk in floppy a: and my data disk in b:

I think we moved beyond that
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30 Apr 2012   #8

Windows 7 Professional 64 EFI
 
 

Your answer is Task Scheduler.

First, remove your startup items from the Start Menu -> Startup section. I'm going to show you the far better way to do things in Windows 7...

Next, type Task Scheduler into your start menu and press enter. This is your new home for all tasks that start due to an event (ie, startup) or on a schedule. There's good stuff in here

You want to click on Action -> Create Task.

A new dialog box will appear. Give it a description, like "Start Firefox". Then navigate to the Triggers tab.

In the Triggers tab, click the New button. On the "Begin the task" drop-down, select At Startup. Here is where you can find your "Delay task for..." drop down! Go check it, give it a minute or so, and press OK to return to the Triggers tab.

Navigate to the Action tab.

In the Action tab, click the New button. Your action will be "Start a Program"; you can now go browse for your hyperlink shortcut OR you can browse for firefox and then enter the URL as an argument. Press OK to return to the Action tab.

Navigate to the Conditions tab.

Depending on your needs, you can modify the power state requirement (by default, it only runs if you're NOT on battery... But maybe you want it to run even if you're battery?) You probably don't want it to stop if you disconnect from AC, so you should probably uncheck that.

Navigate to the Settings tab.

In settings, I'd uncheck the "stop the task if it runs for..." setting, just because you will want to close it on your own.

You can do some seriously awesome stuff with this tool, to include multiple triggers, multiple application launches, blah-de-blah. Task Scheduler turned pretty bad-ass as of Windows Vista but nobody noticed because they were too busy hating the OS It's still bad-ass under Windows 7, and any true power user should be using it for anything that "starts up" with Windows.

I use it to control pretty much every startup task, for reasons similar to yours as well as things like only starting apps when I'm on AC power or starting apps that need UAC permission but I don't want to type in my credentials every time (I refuse to turn off UAC.) It can do a LOT of interesting things...
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30 Apr 2012   #9

Win7 Home Premium 64x
 
 

Great Post Albuquerque

There are two tutorials on this site that are excellent for the task scheduler:

Task Scheduler - Create New Task

And if you have a program that requires administrative priveledges, this is for creating a shortcut, but you can just use the first section for how to get it to start without prompting for UAC

Elevated Program Shortcut without UAC Prompt - Create
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30 Apr 2012   #10

Windows 7 Professional x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Albuquerque View Post
Your answer is Task Scheduler.

First, remove your startup items from the Start Menu -> Startup section. I'm going to show you the far better way to do things in Windows 7...

Next, type Task Scheduler into your start menu and press enter. This is your new home for all tasks that start due to an event (ie, startup) or on a schedule. There's good stuff in here

You want to click on Action -> Create Task.

A new dialog box will appear. Give it a description, like "Start Firefox". Then navigate to the Triggers tab.

In the Triggers tab, click the New button. On the "Begin the task" drop-down, select At Startup. Here is where you can find your "Delay task for..." drop down! Go check it, give it a minute or so, and press OK to return to the Triggers tab.

Navigate to the Action tab.

In the Action tab, click the New button. Your action will be "Start a Program"; you can now go browse for your hyperlink shortcut OR you can browse for firefox and then enter the URL as an argument. Press OK to return to the Action tab.

Navigate to the Conditions tab.

Depending on your needs, you can modify the power state requirement (by default, it only runs if you're NOT on battery... But maybe you want it to run even if you're battery?) You probably don't want it to stop if you disconnect from AC, so you should probably uncheck that.

Navigate to the Settings tab.

In settings, I'd uncheck the "stop the task if it runs for..." setting, just because you will want to close it on your own.

You can do some seriously awesome stuff with this tool, to include multiple triggers, multiple application launches, blah-de-blah. Task Scheduler turned pretty bad-ass as of Windows Vista but nobody noticed because they were too busy hating the OS It's still bad-ass under Windows 7, and any true power user should be using it for anything that "starts up" with Windows.

I use it to control pretty much every startup task, for reasons similar to yours as well as things like only starting apps when I'm on AC power or starting apps that need UAC permission but I don't want to type in my credentials every time (I refuse to turn off UAC.) It can do a LOT of interesting things...
That seems like a lot of steps to accomplish a pretty simple thing, like delayed start. I use WinPatrol from BillP Studios which does the same thing in a very easy to use format and provides additional functions as well.

If you're happy with what you use, stay with it, but I am lazy and like the easy way most of the time.
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