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Windows 7: Windows folder is 365 GB

07 May 2012   #31
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickiedev View Post
I deleted those files and restarted my computer and so far no problems and I freed up a lot of space. Thank you everyone for your help!
That's good to hear. I am glad you followed "bold advice".


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07 May 2012   #32
gregrocker

 

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CCleaner is calibrated flawlessly to know which are disposable temp files. I watched it being done over 15 years. It doesn't make mistakes. There are no worries with running it. I'm growing weary of the ankle-biting.
I am a fan of CClener as well. I have used the "Cleaner" portion for years after seeing it recommended on GRC by some of my peers. It now includes a "Registry" function. Since Windows 7 has a good reputation for maintaining the registry, do you suggest it as a viable tool or better to ignore it? My opinion is to advise against its use, so that newbies don't get themselves in trouble with it.
Sorry for my exasperation but for three years there has almost always been a thread going which trashes CCleaner as though it's Registry cleaner function is suspect or even in the same league with the Reg Cleaner sales scams seen in ads which always ruin Win7.

Yet no one has ever provided a single documented case of CCleaner causing problems, and my own experience is installing it over 15+ years on hundreds of installs representing thousands of uses without a single complaint.

I don't necessarily disagree with those who maintain that Win7 in its perfection doesn't need cleaning or defragging, however I regularly clean up dirty machines which have 1-5 gb of schmutz, hundreds of registry shells, and improve performance and startup (one by a full minute) substantially using Puran free boot-time defragger. This has kept me at it without much deviation.

So I have my favorites which I feel are worth defending in spite of ridicule. I dont like to see genius trashed, and have witnessed from beta that CCleaner is a work of genius. It has earned its place at the top just as Seven Forums has.
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07 May 2012   #33
windude99

Windows 7 Professional x64 Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Sir George View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
CCleaner is calibrated flawlessly to know which are disposable temp files. I watched it being done over 15 years. It doesn't make mistakes. There are no worries with running it. I'm growing weary of the ankle-biting.
I am a fan of CClener as well. I have used the "Cleaner" portion for years after seeing it recommended on GRC by some of my peers. It now includes a "Registry" function. Since Windows 7 has a good reputation for maintaining the registry, do you suggest it as a viable tool or better to ignore it? My opinion is to advise against its use, so that newbies don't get themselves in trouble with it.
Sorry for my exasperation but for three years there has almost always been a thread going which trashes CCleaner as though it's Registry cleaner function is suspect or even in the same league with the Reg Cleaner sales scams seen in ads which always ruin Win7.

Yet no one has ever provided a single documented case of CCleaner causing problems, and my own experience is installing it over 15+ years on hundreds of installs representing thousands of uses without a single complaint.

I don't necessarily disagree with those who maintain that Win7 in its perfection doesn't need cleaning or defragging, however I regularly clean up dirty machines which have 1-5 gb of schmutz, hundreds of registry shells, and improve performance and startup (one by a full minute) substantially using Puran free boot-time defragger. This has kept me at it without much deviation.

So I have my favorites which I feel are worth defending in spite of ridicule. I dont like to see genius trashed, and have witnessed from beta that CCleaner is a work of genius. It has earned its place at the top just as Seven Forums has.
I'm not one to completely trash ccleaner. I use it when I repair Windwos XP computers, but only as a last resort. Windows 7 can manage itself just fine. I have read so many horror stories with thesse third party cleaners, and ccleaner doesn't even speed up the computers, most of the time, so why risk it. Microsoft knows Windows way better than any third party.
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07 May 2012   #34
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Yet no one has ever provided a single documented case of CCleaner causing problems, and my own experience is installing it over 15+ years on hundreds of installs representing thousands of uses without a single complaint.
I don't necessarily disagree with those who maintain that Win7 in its perfection doesn't need cleaning or defragging, however I regularly clean up dirty machines which have 1-5 gb of schmutz, hundreds of registry shells, and improve performance and startup (one by a full minute) substantially using Puran free boot-time defragger. This has kept me at it without much deviation.
So I have my favorites which I feel are worth defending in spite of ridicule. I dont like to see genius trashed, and have witnessed from beta that CCleaner is a work of genius. It has earned its place at the top just as Seven Forums has.
10+ years of using CCleaner for me on a few hundred machines and never a problem. I guess folks see so many negative posts about reg cleaners, especially on Win7 machines (as it handles the registry so much better to begin with), that they simply tend to lump CCleaner with the rest of the rotten bunch. Guess it doesn't help if they also remember its original name was "Crap Cleaner".
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by windude99 View Post
Microsoft knows Windows way better than any third party.
I can understand why someone would have a tendency think that's probably true, and I'm sure overall it is true.

You would be amazed how much Microsoft learns about their own OS's and apps from users, especially considering input from huge corporate IT groups.

Ever heard of Mark Russinovich? There have been others, too. But he's one of the more well known (for good reason).
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07 May 2012   #35
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

I am also a strong support of each and every function of CCleaner and a long time user of CCleaner.

CCleaner is absolutely safe.

There are other cleaning software which is not even worthy of the name, but CCleaner is in class by itself.

For any of you skeptics:
I refer you to this Microsoft link:
Windows 7 Compatibility for CCleaner: Drivers, Updates, Downloads

I too am tired of hearing people bad mouth products which are 100% sound.
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07 May 2012   #36
wanchoo

Windows 7 Pro with SP1 32bit
 
 

You are dead right, karlsnooks. It happens so frequently and the reason is that most of us don't want to think out of the box and are very conservative.

CCleaner is not the only application that is very good and is being bad mouthed. There are several others.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by karlsnooks View Post
I too am tired of hearing people bad mouth products which are 100% sound.
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07 May 2012   #37
FuturDreamz

Windows 8 Pro (32-bit)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mickiedev View Post
I deleted those files and restarted my computer and so far no problems and I freed up a lot of space. Thank you everyone for your help!
Good to hear. I'm still wondering what was the cause, but if all the files were created in 2010 then whatever the cause was; it is long gone.
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08 May 2012   #38
UsernameIssues

W7 Pro SP1 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by sibbil View Post
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Ever heard of Mark Russinovich? There have been others, too. But he's one of the more well known (for good reason).
Mark's name is the first one that I thought of too when I read that comment - ironically, his warning against using automated registry cleaners has been quoted a lot.. Mark says that there would not be much of a performance gain from such a cleaning.

So, gregrocker - you and others have mentioned boot time & performance gains - but the comments always mention doing several things to the system. There should be a way to benchmark the gains due only to cleaning the registry via CCleaner. I would love to see some numbers. I would think that there should be something to gain by clearing out the stuff that a few dozen crappy uninstalls left behind. But who am I to argue with Mark :-)
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08 May 2012   #39
karlsnooks

MS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64-bit
 
 

mark is just another smart kid who attended UT for awhile. OK, that's a little harsh and I have a high respect for his performance.

Mark could have made some of his diagnostic efforts shorter if he had taken advantage of the info gained from running a registry cleaner. I've seem him so stuck on using Autoruns that he missed the obvious simple answer he could have gained from msconfig's startup tab.
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08 May 2012   #40
F5ing

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by UsernameIssues View Post
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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by windude99 View Post
Microsoft knows Windows way better than any third party.
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Ever heard of Mark Russinovich? There have been others, too. But he's one of the more well known (for good reason).
Mark's name is the first one that I thought of too when I read that comment - ironically, his warning against using automated registry cleaners has been quoted a lot.. Mark says that there would not be much of a performance gain from such a cleaning.

So, gregrocker - you and others have mentioned boot time & performance gains - but the comments always mention doing several things to the system. There should be a way to benchmark the gains due only to cleaning the registry via CCleaner. I would love to see some numbers. I would think that there should be something to gain by clearing out the stuff that a few dozen crappy uninstalls left behind. But who am I to argue with Mark :-)

I don't claim any performance increase (since 95/98/Me days). My only point was that using CCleaner for registry cleanup has never caused any issues when I've used it; it has never selected for deletion any registry entry it shouldn't have.

I realize Mark has spoken about registry cleaners over the years, but I've always taken it as referring to the routine use of registry cleaners, in general. Nothing really specific regarding actual products (which I wouldn't really expect).

I think after MS discontinued the "consumer only" lineup and all new OS's were built based on the NT4 business OS, registry cleanup became just that: cleaning up the junk for the sake of a "clean" registry (and/or space). I don't think 95/98/ME handled the registry database very efficiently, and therefore pruning was prudent (especially on machines that saw slews of installs/uninstalls). But that's just my opinion.
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