| Windows 7: Tower Inside Of CPU Desk Safe or Not? |
13 Jun 2012
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Tower Inside Of CPU Desk Safe or Not? I plan on purchasing this desk in the near future that will house the new PC I plan on building as well. The CPU Tower I plan on using is the NZXT Phantom 410.
My question is, will it be unwise to house a PC tower such as the NZXT Phantom, inside the CPU storage area of the desk with the door close? Will my internal PC components get too hot due to restricted air flow?
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks in advance. | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 [64-Bit] CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 186 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB DDR5 PCI-Express Card Sound Card N/A (On-board Sound) Monitor(s) Displays HANNSpree 42" Class LCD 1080p 120Hz HDTV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G13 & Steelseries Merc Stealth Mouse Cyborg M.M.O. 7 Gaming Mouse, Logitech G700 & Steelseries Wo PSU Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W Case NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT Red Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Cooling FANS: 140MM (x1), 120MM (x3), 200MM (x2) Hard Drives SSD: Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA
HDD 1: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 2TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 2: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 3: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 R Internet Speed 25 Mbps Download / 2 Mbps Upload |
13 Jun 2012
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If the desk you have posted a picture of is the desk you are going to use AND IT HAS a screen grill on the door AND has fans in the back of the desk it should be OK.
If the door is solid and no fans in the back of the desk I wouldn't use it. Even if you left the door open. With fans in the back and the door open it should be OK.
I had a friend that did this and he had one fan in the back of the desk but he always left the door closed. I repplaced more hard drives and then RAM on that system then I can count. He then moved it out of the desk and I haven't had a call about a failing hard drive from him since. That was about 3 years ago he moved it out of the desk.
He was Cooking his computer. | My System Specs | | |
13 Jun 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by edwar If the desk you have posted a picture of is the desk you are going to use AND IT HAS a screen grill on the door AND has fans in the back of the desk it should be OK.
If the door is solid and no fans in the back of the desk I wouldn't use it. Even if you left the door open. With fans in the back and the door open it should be OK.
I had a friend that did this and he had one fan in the back of the desk but he always left the door closed. I repplaced more hard drives and then RAM on that system then I can count. He then moved it out of the desk and I haven't had a call about a failing hard drive from him since. That was about 3 years ago he moved it out of the desk.
He was Cooking his computer. Fans in the back of the desk huh? Maybe when I build the desk, maybe I should just not install the CPU cabinet door and maybe I can cut out a large area behind the CPU cabinet for air flow. The door is solid glass though. It's not a screen.
Question: Did you friend have multiple fans on his CPU tower. I plan on using 4-5 fans. At least a 200MM x2 and a 140MM x2 fans as well as a after market CPU cooler for my processor. I also plan on installing a 120MM fan on the HD cage to keep the HD's cool. Will that suffice in your opinion or still too risky? | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 [64-Bit] CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 186 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB DDR5 PCI-Express Card Sound Card N/A (On-board Sound) Monitor(s) Displays HANNSpree 42" Class LCD 1080p 120Hz HDTV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G13 & Steelseries Merc Stealth Mouse Cyborg M.M.O. 7 Gaming Mouse, Logitech G700 & Steelseries Wo PSU Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W Case NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT Red Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Cooling FANS: 140MM (x1), 120MM (x3), 200MM (x2) Hard Drives SSD: Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA
HDD 1: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 2TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 2: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 3: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 R Internet Speed 25 Mbps Download / 2 Mbps Upload |
13 Jun 2012
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It was, still is, a Dell. It is now about 10+ years old and still running. I am surprised he didn't cook the CPU.
Dells aren't known for their cooling but once he removed it from the desk it ran much better overall. It wasn't frying anymore inside that desk.
IMHO it does not matter how many fans you have inside the tower. If the tower can't get fresh cooler air it isn't going to cool.
Go outside on a hot sunny day and stand in the sun. Take a fan and blow it on you while holding a thermometer. Take a reading before you turn the fan on and then 5 minutes after it is on. I bet the thermometer will read the same or maybe 1 degree cooler, even though you may feel cooler. That is because the fan is evaporating the sweat that is on you. If you blow hot air across something it isn't going to cool, it's going to get to the temp of the air. Convection oven. | My System Specs | | |
13 Jun 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by edwar It was, still is, a Dell. It is now about 10+ years old and still running. I am surprised he didn't cook the CPU.
Dells aren't known for their cooling but once he removed it from the desk it ran much better overall. It wasn't frying anymore inside that desk.
IMHO it does not matter how many fans you have inside the tower. If the tower can't get fresh cooler air it isn't going to cool.
Go outside on a hot sunny day and stand in the sun. Take a fan and blow it on you while holding a thermometer. Take a reading before you turn the fan on and then 5 minutes after it is on. I bet the thermometer will read the same or maybe 1 degree cooler, even though you may feel cooler. That is because the fan is evaporating the sweat that is on you. If you blow hot air across something it isn't going to cool, it's going to get to the temp of the air. Convection oven. Thanks for your opinion. I will do a bit more research on this desk and try to chat with a few actual users of the desk and then I will make my decision. Your input is appreciated. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 [64-Bit] CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 186 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB DDR5 PCI-Express Card Sound Card N/A (On-board Sound) Monitor(s) Displays HANNSpree 42" Class LCD 1080p 120Hz HDTV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G13 & Steelseries Merc Stealth Mouse Cyborg M.M.O. 7 Gaming Mouse, Logitech G700 & Steelseries Wo PSU Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W Case NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT Red Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Cooling FANS: 140MM (x1), 120MM (x3), 200MM (x2) Hard Drives SSD: Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA
HDD 1: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 2TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 2: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 3: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 R Internet Speed 25 Mbps Download / 2 Mbps Upload |
13 Jun 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I will put it simple. If the air that is in your desk where your computer will be installed is hotter than the ambient air temp in the room and/or doesn't flow properly to remove the hot air created by the computer you are creating a heat problem. You can install fans that move room air in and out of that desk compartment and you should be okay. You must do this in a fashion so the air blowing in and out of this desk compartment does not interfere with the air flow blowing in and out of the computer tower. This is done by trial and error. Myself I don't allow any of my computer towers to be installed in a confined space smaller than a room. Your case looks to good to be hiding. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
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KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
13 Jun 2012
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Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear I will put it simple. If the air that is in your desk where your computer will be installed is hotter than the ambient air temp in the room and/or doesn't flow properly to remove the hot air created by the computer you are creating a heat problem. You can install fans that move room air in and out of that desk compartment and you should be okay. You must do this in a fashion so the air blowing in and out of this desk compartment does not interfere with the air flow blowing in and out of the computer tower. This is done by trial and error. Myself I don't allow any of my computer towers to be installed in a confined space smaller than a room. Your case looks to good to be hiding. I planned on putting this desk and case in my living room. That's why I considered hiding the case. So far from the opinions I have gotten from this forum, it looks as if the desk manufacturer is seemingly advertising in a falsified manner. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 [64-Bit] CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 3.3GHz, 3.7GHz Motherboard GIGABYTE GA-990XA-UD3 AM3+ AMD Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 8GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 186 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB DDR5 PCI-Express Card Sound Card N/A (On-board Sound) Monitor(s) Displays HANNSpree 42" Class LCD 1080p 120Hz HDTV Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Logitech G13 & Steelseries Merc Stealth Mouse Cyborg M.M.O. 7 Gaming Mouse, Logitech G700 & Steelseries Wo PSU Antec High Current Gamer Series HCG-900 900W Case NZXT Phantom PHAN-001WT Red Steel / Plastic Enthusiast ATX Cooling FANS: 140MM (x1), 120MM (x3), 200MM (x2) Hard Drives SSD: Crucial M4 CT064M4SSD2 2.5" 64GB SATA
HDD 1: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 2TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 2: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 1TB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache
HDD 3: Western Digital Caviar Blue WD5000AAKS 500GB 7200 R Internet Speed 25 Mbps Download / 2 Mbps Upload |
13 Jun 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I would be proud to show off that case in my living room. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
13 Jun 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1 Houston, Texas |
I have a desk similar to yours. Mine has a wooden door. I use it for computer supplies, not my system. You are asking for trouble to put you PC in there. I also have a nice NZXT case. Show it off and be proud of it while your PC breathes in all of the cool air. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1 CPU Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz Motherboard Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX Memory Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz Graphics Card Zotac GeForce 9400 GT 512MB Sound Card Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit Monitor(s) Displays Samsung Sync Master 940 = 19 inch Screen Resolution 1440 X 900 Keyboard Microsoft Natural 4000 Mouse Microsoft Custom Optical 3000 PSU 500 watt Case NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel Cooling Three 120 mm Fans Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
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