| Windows 7: Which PC is the better deal? |
24 Jun 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
Greg:
I'd give at least some consideration to support in case of a hardware failure.
From all I hear, Asus is average to poor---I have not heard recent reports on HP.
My Asus misgivings would probably not apply if you would be dealing only with Best Buy--who themselves may be questionable?
Additionally--has your sister ever used Dragon Naturally Speaking for transcription purposes? I have a lot of experience with it and found it reduced my overall transcription time by perhaps 35%, after accounting for the manual correcting that would still have to be done.
Dragon likes lots of CPU power--but I found that a 2008 era Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 would run Dragon very well---I could speak most portions to be transcribed at near normal speed.
Last edited by ignatzatsonic; 24 Jun 2012 at 05:09 PM..
| My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
24 Jun 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Colorado |
I know little about ASUS systems other than many of the people I know in IT like their laptops; I have heard nothing about their desktops. HP makes hit or miss laptops, but fairly quality desktops in my experience. That said, HP systems do tend to run a bit hot, so the lifetime may be an issue without proper dust maintenance.
My HP is nearly four years old, but the Intel Q9550 CPU runs up to 75-80 C and the ATI Radeon HD 4850 GPU ran in the high 90s until I tweaked the fan speeds with SpeedFan; I could not adjust the CPU temperatures, so I just live with that and clean the dust out every couple months. Just giving my personal experience so if she does go with the HP, you know what to recommend. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
24 Jun 2012
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#4 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Hmm, the E300 is a netbook processor. I would not want that in a desktop.
The Athlon at least has good specs. The 3000 graphics is not the greatest, but it should suffice for what your sis wants to do. You can always add a more powerful GPU later - for less than $100 you find decent GPUs. And there is an available PCI-e X16 in the box. Changing the CPU is more difficult because of the sockets.
And I have never heard anything real negative about Asus. Maybe Ignatz mixed it up with Acer. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
24 Jun 2012
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#5 | | Win 7 Ultimate x64 Etobicoke, Ontario |
Full specs on that HP, HP Pavilion p2-1100 Desktop PC series*-* HP Pavilion p2-1124 Desktop PC Product Specifications - c03364038 - HP Business Support Center
If you ever plan on upgrading anything other than the ram or HD in it, forget it. As a HTPC or light gamer it might not be too bad, but it will be held back by the CPU (which is only 1.3 GHz).
The Asus on the other hand, ASUS - Desktop- ASUS Essentio CM1730
while having a much weaker onboard video in the HD 3000 (first gen DirectX 10.1 onboard), can be upgraded easily with a cheap video card if needed. The CPU is also much better. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me OS Win 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Phenom II x4 955 @ 4 GHz. Motherboard Asus M5A97 EVO Memory 2x2 GB Kingston HyperX DDR3 1600 Graphics Card Sapphire HD 6850 Sound Card Xonar DGX w/ Logitech X-530 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S232HL Abid Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech Wave Mouse Logitech G5 v2 PSU Antec Earthwatts 650W Green Case Antec Three Hundred Cooling Cooler Master 212 EVO Hard Drives 120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12 Internet Speed 24000/1000 |
24 Jun 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit NC |
Why not just build one with some high quality but inexpensive hardware...this way your sister will have all the hardware support she'll ever need....chuckle. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom built OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790X-DS4 Memory GSkill 4 X 2 GB PC 8500 Graphics Card XFX Radeon HD 6790 D Sound Card On board RealTek HD Monitor(s) Displays Dual monitors:Samsung SyncMaster S20B300 Screen Resolution 1600 X 900 Keyboard Logitech G510 Mouse Razor DeathAdder PSU Ultra X4 750 watt fully modular Case Thermaltake Overseer RX 1 full tower Cooling Core-Contact 92 mm CPU Cooler Hard Drives Seagate Barracuda 1TB (primary)
Seagate Barracuda 2 X 320 GB Internet Speed 50/5 Mbps UL/DL Other Info Optical: Super Muliti DVD burner w/lightscribe, Hauppauge WinTV HVR-1800 |
24 Jun 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit Colorado |
Based on what whs mentions about the E300, I would probably lean toward the ASUS, as well.
I probably should have mentioned, when I bought my HP, I bought fairly top of the line hardware at the time.
Also, be wary of Best Buy workers in sheep clothing.  Their extended warranty can end up costing more than a new system in the long run... Happened to me, so my feelings may not reflect those of others, but their support team damaged my last laptop to the point that I had to buy a new one through their store credit which was not enough to cover a comparable system.
Anyway, ASUS looks like the better choice. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavilion e9110t OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit CPU Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q9550 @ 2.83GHz Motherboard Pegatron IPIEL-LA3 Memory 6.00 GB Hundai HMT125U6BFR8C-H9 Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 4850 Sound Card Realtek High Definition Audio/ATI High Definition Audio Monitor(s) Displays Acer AL2216W Screen Resolution 1680x1050 Keyboard HP Keyboard Mouse HP Mouse PSU Unknown/installed by HP Case HP generic case Cooling Intel Stock Cooling Hard Drives Hitachi HDP725050GLA360 ATA Device 500 GB Internet Speed Download: 19.15 Mbps Upload: 1.67 Mbps Other Info Network Adapter Realtek RTL8168D/8111D Family PCI-E Gigabit Ethernet NIC (NDIS 6.20)
Network Adapter 802.11n Wireless PCI Express Card LAN Adapter |
24 Jun 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 In The Woods |
Hey Greg. From what I can see on a very brief review of the processors I don't think that one performs significantly differently from the other. I would call them near equals.
After that, the Asus system is head and shoulder above the HP for the $30 extra.
The Asus is expandable to 16GB RAM vs 8GB for HP
Asus 750GB HDD vs 500GB HP
Asus has Gigabit LAN vs 10/100 for HP
The HP has a 12x optical drive vs the 8x on the Asus.
Neither system has USB 3.0, which bums me out. You know we are going to insist on disk images and constant backups, and the 10x transfer speed is just a huge plus!
My 2 cents anyway! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
24 Jun 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 In The Woods |

Quote: Originally Posted by bassfisher6522 Why not just build one with some high quality but inexpensive hardware...this way your sister will have all the hardware support she'll ever need....chuckle. I'm working on a new system for a friend right now with very similar specs and I can't come close to that price building from parts!
They must have some serious bloatware on those systems to make up that kind of margin! | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built - Jan 2013 OS Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1 CPU i7-3820 Motherboard Asus P9X79-PRO - Bios 3305 Memory GSkill F3-14900CL9Q - 16GB Graphics Card EVGA GeForce GTX660 - Driver 310.90 Sound Card On board Realtek ALC898 Monitor(s) Displays Acer S271HL Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard MS KC-0405 Mouse Intellimouse 5-button PSU Corsair CMPSU-850TX-V2 - 850 watt (by Seasonic) Case Corsair Obsidian 550D Cooling Standard 3 120mm case fans, Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO Hard Drives #1- Samsung 840 Pro Series
#2- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black
#3- Western Digital WD1002FAEX Sata3 Black Internet Speed 25Mbits/Sec (on a good day) Antivirus Avast & Malwarebytes Browser Firefox Other Info Asus DVD - DRW-24B1ST 24X |
24 Jun 2012
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#10 | | win7 Ult 64 Northern California |
Looking over the specs on these I would definately go for the ASUS with its much faster processor and the larger Drive.
As for a warranty I strongly suggest you get a SquareTrade 3 year warranty which will run you approximately 60.00 if you buy the warranty while the system is new. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number My Build OS win7 Ult 64 CPU i7 3930K & 3960X Motherboard ASUS P9X79 Deluxe Memory 16GB G-Skill 2133MHz Graphics Card Sapphire HD 7970 Sound Card On-board Monitor(s) Displays ASUS 27 inch Screen Resolution 1920X1080 Keyboard Mionix Mouse Mionix PSU Corsair AX1200 Case NZXT 810 Cooling Custom Loop, Swiftech HDBlock Hard Drives Crucial M4 256GB, 1.5TB WD Black for Data/Images Internet Speed Cable Which PC is the better deal? problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:11 PM. | |