| Windows 7: Purchasing a New Laptop |
29 Jun 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
Purchasing a New Laptop What are the main points to look for when puchasing a laptop in the price range up to about £700.It will be used in the main for e-mailing,surfing the internet and games.Is a SSD superior to a hard disk drive and if so are there any drawbacks with them.Also what processor would you recommend.Any advice and guidance would be appreciated.. | My System Specs |
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29 Jun 2012
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#2 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by denwilliam What are the main points to look for when puchasing a laptop in the price range up to about £700.It will be used in the main for e-mailing,surfing the internet and games.Is a SSD superior to a hard disk drive and if so are there any drawbacks with them.Also what processor would you recommend.Any advice and guidance would be appreciated.. Obviously features and basic specifications would be a primary consideration, but I'd also give a lot of thought to build quality and support---what is going to happen if you have failure of some type within warranty?
SSDs are inferior only as regards price and capacity. They are noticeably faster than standard drives. If your laptop will hold only 1 hard drive, an SSD may not be large enough to hold all of your data--in which case go with a standard HDD.
At your budget, I'd guess you can get an Intel processor of some type. They are generally better performers in the mid and upper price ranges.
If you have a supplier picked out, maybe you can post a link to the web site. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
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#3 | | Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
Thank you for your reply which is helpful but is there any processor you would suggest?. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
29 Jun 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
See if you can get something in the i5 family from Intel in your budget.
Here are a bunch of them from a US source. Make note of the processor model numbers, such as 2430M, 2450M, etc and see what you can find from your chosen suppliers. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...el%20Core%20i5 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
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#5 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Everything you want to do can be done with any laptop - except gaming. That is always a problem because you will need a high performance GPU which produces a lot of heat. And the heat problem is one of the main drawbacks in laptops because there is little room for adequate blowers and to evacuate the hot air.
Rather than focussing on the CPU, I would focus on the GPU in your case. An i5 CPU is a good compromise and plenty for most applications. It can even handle such tasks as video encoding pretty well. For the GPU you have to look what is being offered, but it should have at least 1GB of it's own RAM. The so called on-board video facilities will not do for gaming.
I have equipped all my systems (including my 4 laptops) with SSDs. I would never go back to spinning disks. But the best is to buy the SSD seperately and exchange it against the HDD. That recovered HDD you can use as an additional external storage with the help of a USB enclosure. They cost pennies.
Speaking of USB - you should have at least 1 USB3 port. That makes external disks a lot faster. An eSata port is even better. I once had a Sony laptop that had both. But that cost $1175 and may be far out of your budget range.
I would recommend a 120GB SSD and put some of the data on an external drive (e.g. the enclocure or large USB sticks). But if you plan for very large games, a 256GB model may be better. You are looking at $100 to $200 for those. Apart from the SSD performance aspect, you also get a lot less heat from an SSD than from a HDD.
Bottom line: buying a laptop is easy if it were not for the gaming. A desktop has a lot more options and can be equipped with a lot more powerful devices than a laptop which is limited an space and therefore very heat sensitive. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
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#6 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I would like to emphasize one of whs very good points. Gaming creates heat and laptops dissipate heat poorly. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
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#7 | | Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
Thanks to all three for those comprehensive answers,certainly got something to chew on there.Those numbers for the processors,do they mean anything or are they just designation no.s,what I am trying to say is how do you compare the performance of one against another.Sorry if I seem obtuse but am not au fait with all the technical terms. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
29 Jun 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |
The numbers on CPU models generally don't tell you a lot.
You can look up a benchmark score for most any CPU here: PassMark Software - CPU Benchmark Charts
Most of the CPUs in your budget range would be in the "high end" or "high to midrange" charts.
For instance, the Intel 2450M is rated at 3583.
The charts give you a general idea of overall "horsepower" of various CPUs.
Differences of a few hundred points aren't likely to mean anything, but you'd probably notice a difference of, say, a thousand points in some circumstances.
Overall, you would probably be more impressed with a CPU that had a rating of 3000 in a laptop with an SSD than you would be with a CPU with a rating of 4000 in a laptop that had a standard hard drive. But I don't know if you can fit an SSD into your budget.
People game with laptops all the time---you just have to adjust your expectations to a lower level than on a desktop PC. Laptops just have gaming limitations due to their modest graphics and heat buildup. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD15EADS-00P8B0, 1.5TB Other Info Power consumption of this system, including monitor: 68 watts at idle; 144 watts at full load |
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#9 | | Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
That is great,solves a mystery that has had me scratching my head.When I said games it is mainly playing chess against the computer and not those combat games the more energetic play Why I would prefer a SSD is because I tried a Crucial 128GB M4 in my laptop and was most impressed with the improved performance but failed to obtain full benefit due to my other laptop components. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 64 bit Home Premium |
29 Jun 2012
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#10 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
The Crucial M4 is a good choice. I have one myself and am very pleased. I left mine on Firmware level 0309 because some people reported problems with the newest level 000F. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 Purchasing a New Laptop problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:09 PM. | |