The dell machine had its own install dvd and the dual p4 machine had its own also.
So there were 2 seperate install dvds and the same problem on both machines with completely different video , audio , cpus , ram , hard drives , motherboards , etc.
After this experince i decided that windows 7 was not very usefull to me. Wanted to make sure others knew about these problems. Oh yea there was the problem of wndows 7 having all kinds of fits about the samsung printer softwear i was using. This same printer installs and runs perfectly under ubuntu 12.04 . Go figure.
And there are millions of users using ubuntu also !