| Windows 7: Recent change to system - can't re-position desktop icons + more |
18 Jul 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit |
Recent change to system - can't re-position desktop icons + more Hi folks,
I see that this topic has been mentioned more than once in the past - sorry to bring it back (none of the solutions fix my problem).
A few days ago (16th July 2012) the Resident Shield of my AVG Internet Security 2012 reported an issue with the 'Services.exe' file located in C:\Windows\System32\
- specifically stating 'Trojan horse dropper.Generic_c.MMI' and saying that the 'Object is white-listed (critical/system file that should not be removed'.
After Googling this issue the avg forum suggested I use the following command in the cmd box: "sfc /scanfile=c:\windows\system32\services.exe". After doing this I had no more problems reported with services.exe. Problem 1:
However, now, my desktop icon arrangement has reset and grouped to the left side of the screen. I can re-position each icon however, upon reboot or the desktop Refresh command all Icons return to the left - to exactly the same position. Auto arrange icons is turned off and align to grid can be turned off however, it keeps turning itself on upon reboot.
Icon re-positioning was always retained previously - this problem has only just appeared. Problem 2:
Upon double-clicking the desktop Computer icon I am now unable to permanently set the view from 'Tiles' to 'Details' (I can, temporarily) - this was never the case until the issue above (i.e. all explorer/folder views were permanently set to detail via 'folder options/view/apply folders').
So, something has changed very recently. I've ran full scans using avg (virus,tracking and rootkit), malewarebytes mbam, spybot but the problem persists. I've re-checked system files using 'sfc /verifyonly' and no 'integrity violations' were found.
Can anyone throw some light on what might be causing this?
Last edited by mesab66; 18 Jul 2012 at 03:20 PM..
| My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number Own Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit CPU i7 920 @4GHz Motherboard Gigabyte EX58 UD5 Memory 12GB Graphics Card GTX580 Sound Card Creative Audio XFi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP PSU BeQuiet 700W Case Antec Hard Drives OCZ Revodrive X2 240GB, Crucial M4 512GB, 2TB Samsung F1 |
18 Jul 2012
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#2 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
Hello mesab66 and welcome to Seven Forums.
If you have a restore point going back to July 15 or earlier you could see if that will correct the problem. System Restore
You could also run the actual system file checker scan (sfc /scannow) from an elevated command prompt (option two) just to make sure you don't have any damaged or corrupt system files. If any problems are found run the scan 3 times rebooting in between each scan. SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup |
18 Jul 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit |
Thanks for your reply. Unfortunately sfc /scannow didn't find anything.
In the meantime, I created a new windows 7 standard user account. Upon rebooting into this account I am able to permanently re-position any desktop icon. Inaddition, double-clicking the desktop 'Computer' icon allows me to permanently change the view settings to 'details' (from 'tiles'). These are both things I cannot do with my own (administrator) account.
--> I hope this helps?
--> my latest Acronis backup image is 3 months old - I've purchased and installed a fair bit since then (cakewalk sonar, propellerhead reason, etc), so if possible, I'd be keen to see if my problem is a 'simple' fix. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Own Built OS Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64bit CPU i7 920 @4GHz Motherboard Gigabyte EX58 UD5 Memory 12GB Graphics Card GTX580 Sound Card Creative Audio XFi Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2408WFP PSU BeQuiet 700W Case Antec Hard Drives OCZ Revodrive X2 240GB, Crucial M4 512GB, 2TB Samsung F1 |
18 Jul 2012
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#4 | | Win 7 Pro 64-bit South Central Texas |
You could try to create a new administrator account and then replace the file permissions for the folders that you need to recover. It's a fairly complicated procedure. Repair corrupted admin account - Microsoft Answers
You could also try a repair install. Repair Install | My System Specs | | Computer type Laptop System Manufacturer/Model Number Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop OS Win 7 Pro 64-bit CPU Intel i5 2.4 Ghz Memory 8GB DDR3 Graphics Card Intel HD 3000 Sound Card IDT High Definition Monitor(s) Displays 15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED Screen Resolution 1280x800 Hard Drives 640Gb 7200rpm Antivirus MSE Browser Opera (primary) with IE9 backup |
23 Jul 2012
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Windows Vista, XP, Server, & Irix on SGI Base Fort Collins, CO |

Quote: Originally Posted by mesab66 Hi folks,
I see that this topic has been mentioned more than once in the past - sorry to bring it back (none of the solutions fix my problem).
A few days ago (16th July 2012) the Resident Shield of my AVG Internet Security 2012 reported an issue with the 'Services.exe' file located in C:\Windows\System32\
- specifically stating 'Trojan horse dropper.Generic_c.MMI' and saying that the 'Object is white-listed (critical/system file that should not be removed'.
After Googling this issue the avg forum suggested I use the following command in the cmd box: "sfc /scanfile=c:\windows\system32\services.exe". After doing this I had no more problems reported with services.exe. Problem 1:
However, now, my desktop icon arrangement has reset and grouped to the left side of the screen. I can re-position each icon however, upon reboot or the desktop Refresh command all Icons return to the left - to exactly the same position. Auto arrange icons is turned off and align to grid can be turned off however, it keeps turning itself on upon reboot.
Icon re-positioning was always retained previously - this problem has only just appeared. Problem 2:
Upon double-clicking the desktop Computer icon I am now unable to permanently set the view from 'Tiles' to 'Details' (I can, temporarily) - this was never the case until the issue above (i.e. all explorer/folder views were permanently set to detail via 'folder options/view/apply folders').
So, something has changed very recently. I've ran full scans using avg (virus,tracking and rootkit), malewarebytes mbam, spybot but the problem persists. I've re-checked system files using 'sfc /verifyonly' and no 'integrity violations' were found.
Can anyone throw some light on what might be causing this? BUMP - Had same issue as you and did sfc /scanfile. Also did system repair reinstall and nothing changed. Made new user account and problem was gone until I copy over my files and appdata. Came right back, anyone got fix for this??
Foxler | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number FoxRunner PC - MINE! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Windows Vista, XP, Server, & Irix on SGI Base CPU AMD 1090T Overlock 4Ghz Motherboard MSI 890FX-G65 Memory Crucial DDR3 1600 8GB Graphics Card 2x CF AMD HD5970 Sound Card Lulz Monitor(s) Displays 3 Samsung SyncMaster 245BW 24" PSU Thermaltake TX 875 Watt & Express VGA 650 Watt Case Thermaltake Xaser VI Cooling Thermaltake Q Spin Hard Drives 4 x Seagate 7200.14 500GB - Raid 0 |
23 Jul 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Windows Vista, XP, Server, & Irix on SGI Base Fort Collins, CO |
I think I solved it, issue is gone after removing these files.
2012-07-16 06:34:34 . 2012-07-16 06:34:34 106 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\L\1afb2d56.vir
2012-07-16 06:17:45 . 2012-07-16 06:17:45 232,960 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\U\00000008.@.vir
2012-07-16 06:17:45 . 2012-07-16 06:17:45 95,744 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\U\80000032.@.vir
2012-07-16 06:17:45 . 2012-07-16 06:17:45 804 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\L\00000004.@.vir
2012-07-16 06:17:45 . 2012-07-16 06:17:45 80,896 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\U\80000064.@.vir
2012-07-16 06:17:44 . 2012-07-16 06:17:44 16,896 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\U\80000000.@.vir
2012-07-16 06:17:44 . 2012-07-16 06:17:44 1,632 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\U\000000cb.@.vir
2012-07-16 06:17:44 . 2012-07-16 06:17:44 2,048 ----a-w- C\Windows\Installer\{8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10}\U\00000004.@.vir
Foxler | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number FoxRunner PC - MINE! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Windows Vista, XP, Server, & Irix on SGI Base CPU AMD 1090T Overlock 4Ghz Motherboard MSI 890FX-G65 Memory Crucial DDR3 1600 8GB Graphics Card 2x CF AMD HD5970 Sound Card Lulz Monitor(s) Displays 3 Samsung SyncMaster 245BW 24" PSU Thermaltake TX 875 Watt & Express VGA 650 Watt Case Thermaltake Xaser VI Cooling Thermaltake Q Spin Hard Drives 4 x Seagate 7200.14 500GB - Raid 0 |
23 Jul 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
I'm just reading along trying to learn.
Foxler could you tell us where you found these files and how? How did you know they were bad files? What are these files? | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
23 Jul 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Windows Vista, XP, Server, & Irix on SGI Base Fort Collins, CO |

Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear I'm just reading along trying to learn.
Foxler could you tell us where you found these files and how? How did you know they were bad files? What are these files? Just old trick from Window 98 days, look at the AVG log to see when it happen match the date and time rang so anything on July 16th with any new added files to the system. Saw those and backup them up before removed them. There we go, the desktop and user profile work again.
Foxler | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number FoxRunner PC - MINE! OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 - Windows Vista, XP, Server, & Irix on SGI Base CPU AMD 1090T Overlock 4Ghz Motherboard MSI 890FX-G65 Memory Crucial DDR3 1600 8GB Graphics Card 2x CF AMD HD5970 Sound Card Lulz Monitor(s) Displays 3 Samsung SyncMaster 245BW 24" PSU Thermaltake TX 875 Watt & Express VGA 650 Watt Case Thermaltake Xaser VI Cooling Thermaltake Q Spin Hard Drives 4 x Seagate 7200.14 500GB - Raid 0 |
23 Jul 2012
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#9 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 Northern Ohio |
Thank you. Were they part of a infection of some kind or just the results of the infection. I have been Googling 8dbef and found loads of things it can be attached to. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Home made Desktop OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit. SP-1 CPU Intel i7-960-3.2 @ 4.25 Motherboard ASUS P6X58D-E Memory KINGSTON KHX2000C9, Hyper X,12 GIGS Graphics Card MSI/Nvidia/460GTX-Cyclone 1GD5/OC Monitor(s) Displays DYNEX 40 IN. Screen Resolution 1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI Keyboard M/S 3000 v 2.0 wireless Mouse M/S 5000 wireless PSU Corsair AX-850 Plus Gold Case Corsair 600T (Black) + side panel with 2 140 mm Noctua fans Cooling Corsair H50/2 Noctua NF-P12 (120 mm) Push/Pull- Hard Drives INTEL SSD 120GB-SER 510
Seagate 1TB SATA 600 7200 rpm Hard Drive Internet Speed 3.0 mb Antivirus Microsoft Security Eesentials Browser I.E. 10 default/Firefox Other Info LG BluRay-Read/Write
Sound system
KLipsch-THX
Asus Router RTN-12
2 Noctua 140 added on top of 600t case
Malwarebytes Anti Malware Professional
Windows 7 Firewall |
24 Jul 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit |
starfaxACEFox, did you delete the entire {8dbef5a3-68e2-7125-0015-8c7499445e10} directory or just the files you indicated? I have a very similar problem. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit Recent change to system - can't re-position desktop icons + more problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:15 PM. | |