| Windows 7: Can I assign a letter to the SYSTEM partition? |
13 Aug 2012
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#1 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits |
Can I assign a letter to the SYSTEM partition? Hi,
I have a new HP laptop running Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits.
As I am about to tinker with the partitions, I wanted to save the MBR and the first 3 (FAT32) / 7 (NTFS) sectors of each partition, but the software I'm using to do this won't show me any info for the small active partition called "SYSTEM". I suspect it's because there's no letter assigned to it.
Do you think I can assign a letter to SYSTEM without it messing with the boot?
Thanks! | My System Specs |
| OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits |
13 Aug 2012
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#2 | | Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 Florida in winter, Black Forest/Germany |
Sure, no problem use Disk Management for the task. I just like to give you a little warning - tinkering with the partitions is not for the faint at heart. If you want to backup the partitions, I suggest imaging as a clean and safe way. Drive Letter - Add, Change, or Remove in Windows 7 | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP, Dell, Gateway, Toshiba - 4 laptops and 2 desktops OS Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8 CPU from 1.6GHz Duo to i7 Monitor(s) Displays 2x HP w2207 Keyboard with trackball - no mices Mouse Trackball mice Hard Drives 5x HDD, 7x SSD, 12x Externals Internet Speed DSL 6000 |
13 Aug 2012
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#3 | | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 New Jersey |
There is no reason to. You should leave it be. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Built by Me ! OS Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit SP1 CPU Intel Core i5 3570k @ 4.0 GHz Motherboard MSI Z77A-G45 Memory 16GB Corsair Vengeance @ 1600 MHz 10-10-10-27 Graphics Card MSI GTX660 Twin Frozr3 OC Sound Card Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays Dell 19" HP 23" Sony Bravia 40" Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard Fellowes KWD 855 Mouse Microsoft Wireless PSU Corsair HX750 80+Gold Case Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Gun Metal Black Cooling Cooler Master Hyper N520, Arctic Alumina Thermal Compound Hard Drives OCZ Vertex 4 119GB SSD,
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13 Aug 2012
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#4 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
I certainly second the notion on leaving things "as is" as far as the hidden recovery partition at least until you have either created a set of recovery disks or a full system image backup of the main drive. Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
If you don't have a second drive(external) to store a full system image on the set of recovery disks will wipe the present drive to see the factory preinstall restored in the event you need to take that route. Assigning a drive letter to the boot or recovery partition also exposes it to any potential risk of malwares like root kits, etc. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
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WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
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13 Aug 2012
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#5 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
What is it exactly that you want to do? | My System Specs | | |
14 Aug 2012
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#6 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case New England |
Apparently he is only trying to save the beginning of each partition as well as the mbr. Any imaging ware will simply grab an entire partition when creating a backup image. A full disk image will automatically include the mbr along with everything else.
The "tinker with partitions" sounds like repartitioning is the main idea. The image backup would still be advised in case of any mishap. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64, XP Mode, W8 RP VM, Linux Mint Debian 2nd OS HD- 7 Pro x64 second case CPU AMD Phenom II X4 975 Deneb 3.6ghz - 965 on new mini tower Motherboard Gigabyte GA-790XTA-UD4 Memory Kingston Hyper X DDR3 1600 1.5v 16gb - Mushkin on 2nd build Graphics Card MSI HD Radeon 5750 1gb - MSI HD Radeon 6450 on mini tower Sound Card Creative Labs X-Fi XtremeGamer - Realtek onooard 2nd case Monitor(s) Displays 2 x Acer P191W 19" widesscreen - HP 20" widescreen mini towe Screen Resolution 1440x900 native - 1600x1024 on 7 Pro x64 build Keyboard Microsoft Recusa Razor - MS Comfort 3000 on second build Mouse MS Trackball Explorer - A4TECH dual scroll wheel trackball PSU Corsair 750TX - primary / Corsair CX600 - second Case Antec 900-2 - SSD compatible / NZXT Vulcan mini tower Cooling Zalman CNPS9900A Hard Drives Primary Ultimate x64 build-
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 6.0 = 2
WD Black Edition 1tb Sata 3.0 = 2 (OS drives)
WD 1tb Green Power sata = 2 1 external
usb flash drives = 18
Second 7 Pro x64 mini tower-
WD Caviar SE 500gb sata II single drive presen Internet Speed 30mbps upgrade - primary hard wired - mini tower usb WiFi |
14 Aug 2012
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#7 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits |
Thanks for the replies, guys! 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk If you don't have a second drive(external) to store a full system image on the set of recovery disks will wipe the present drive to see the factory preinstall restored in the event you need to take that route. I'm not sure I get this, could you please rephrase? Thanks. 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker What is it exactly that you want to do? I want to save the first 7 sectors of the NTFS partition called SYSTEM. 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk Assigning a drive letter to the boot or recovery partition also exposes it to any potential risk of malwares like root kits, etc. Very interesting. Hadn't thought of that.
Well, I could assign a letter to the boot partition, save the first 7 sectors, then remove the letter, I guess?
Also, when I bought the laptop, the Recovery partition came with a letter assigned. Do you think I should remove it then? 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk The "tinker with partitions" sounds like repartitioning is the main idea. Yes. My problem was quite common: I bought a laptop which already had 4 primary partitions, and I want to 1) install Ubuntu 2) have my data on a separate partition. Hence the need to "tinker".
I'm planning on:
* shrinking the size of C:
* converting Recovery into a logical partition using the Partition Wizard Bootable Disk (following Method two here, except I'm converting Recovery instead of C: )
* extending the size of the newly created extended partition to encompass all of the non allocated disk space I freed when shrinking C:
* using an Ubuntu live-CD, creating 3 new logical partitions in that huge extended partition: 1) root 2) swap 3) a storage partition in NTFS | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits |
14 Aug 2012
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#8 | | Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit |

Quote: Originally Posted by Annaa 
Quote: Originally Posted by Night Hawk If you don't have a second drive(external) to store a full system image on the set of recovery disks will wipe the present drive to see the factory preinstall restored in the event you need to take that route. I'm not sure I get this, could you please rephrase? Thanks. I'm guessing he means that you can always use recovery disks to restore the computer to factory specifications if necessary.
Unfortunately, burned recovery disks are not highly reliable, judging from complaints on this forum. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one OS Windows 7 SP1, Home Premium, 64-bit CPU Intel Sandy Bridge i5-2500, not overclocked Motherboard Gigabyte H67A-UD3H-B3, full ATX Memory 4 GB Crucial DDR3-1333 Graphics Card none; graphics are integrated on CPU Sound Card onboard: Realtek ALC892; external: USB Behringer UF0-202 Monitor(s) Displays NEC 90GX2-BK 19" LCD Screen Resolution 800 x 640 Keyboard Leopold Tenkeyless with Cherry Blue switches, USB Mouse Logitech or Microsoft optical wired; either USB or PS 2 PSU Seasonic SS-560KM, modular Case Antec Solo II Cooling CPU: Scythe Big Shuriken; Case: Scythe Slipstream 800 & 500 Hard Drives System: Intel 320 Series SSD, 80 GB;
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14 Aug 2012
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#9 | | Win7 x 6 PC's California, Florida, Boston |
Please post back a screenshot of your maximized Disk Management drive map and listings:
1. Type Disk Management in Start Search box.
2. Open Disk Mgmt. window and maximize it.
3. Type Snipping Tool in Start Search box.
4. Open Snipping Tool, choose Rectangular Snip, draw a box around full map and all listings.
5, Save Snip, attach using paper clip in Reply Box.
Tell us what is on each partition and which you want to keep or delete. We will give you the steps for how to safely create a new partition of the size desired for your Linux distro. | My System Specs | | |
14 Aug 2012
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#10 | | Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bits |
Thanks for explaining, ignatzatsonic. And thanks for offering to help, gregrocker.
Ok, I posted a screencap. Apologies in advance for it being in French. 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker We will give you the steps for how to safely create a new partition of the size desired for your Linux distro. I take it you don't like what I had in mind much? What's wrong with it? 
Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker Tell us what is on each partition and which you want to keep or delete. C: => Windows 7, I'm keeping it
SYSTEM => the boot, I'm keeping it
HP_TOOLS => HP diagnostic tools, I'm keeping it
Recovery => the recovery partition, AKA probably the most dispensable partition of the four (although ignatzatsonic has me a bit worried about the DVDs now)... Still, I would like to try to keep it by turning it into a logical disk
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