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Windows 7: Help! I inadvertantly might have messed up my external hard drive

02 Oct 2012   #21
Birddude007

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Thank you everyone for all your advice, I managed to recover all my important files to a spot on my laptop HD, I went out tonight and purchased a Seagate 3TB external HD, ya it too has the Seagate Dashboard for uploading and downloading easily to the Cloud, Facebook, ect..., However- I am the type of person who just needs the external HD for storage and I don't need any of that other garbage and I have discovered that I am allowed to delete it all off of the HD, now I have a nice clean uncluttered 2.72 TB hard drive. I will still use my "My Book" for basically storage of "not so important" files, I am sure I can trust it but so far I am liking this Seagate. Right now I am transferring all the recovered files onto it as we speak.


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02 Oct 2012   #22
linnemeyerhere

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

Glad you have your data and all the drives working well. I too love my "My Books" & my "Freeagents".-hpim1307.jpg


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03 Oct 2012   #23
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Birddude007 View Post
....However- I am the type of person who just needs the external HD for storage and I don't need any of that other garbage and I have discovered that I am allowed to delete it all off of the HD, now I have a nice clean uncluttered 2.72 TB hard drive. .......
That is it.

Now is your WD HDD clean? I am afraid not. It may still have a 700MB VCD ( or 40MB on later models of WD HDDs) UDF partition - even if you hide the VCD.

To delete that VCD partition (effectively killing it) and make your disk into a whole unit, download HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool - CNET Download.com , Run it as Administrator and do a quick format (FAT32 or NTFS as you may wish).

( Please note the WDD capacity in My Computer before and after and confirm that the formatting has indeed added the extra space.)
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03 Oct 2012   #24
Birddude007

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jumanji View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Birddude007 View Post
....However- I am the type of person who just needs the external HD for storage and I don't need any of that other garbage and I have discovered that I am allowed to delete it all off of the HD, now I have a nice clean uncluttered 2.72 TB hard drive. .......
That is it.

Now is your WD HDD clean? I am afraid not. It may still have a 700MB VCD ( or 40MB on later models of WD HDDs) UDF partition - even if you hide the VCD.

To delete that VCD partition (effectively killing it) and make your disk into a whole unit, download HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool - CNET Download.com , Run it as Administrator and do a quick format (FAT32 or NTFS as you may wish).

( Please note the WDD capacity in My Computer before and after and confirm that the formatting has indeed added the extra space.)
I just went into the device drive manager and basically shut it off so that I cannot see the crapware anymore, I formatted the remaining 930 GBs of HD space, and have now basicallyloaded a bunch of stuff that isn't so criticall to keep. I mainly keep all my graphic design/ photography files on the new SeaGate drive and now all is well.
The last few night I however had to redirect my Lightroom Software so that it can see all my photo files, I just finished up doing that, Now I basically have my lightroom catalogues and original images stored on this drive and nothing else.
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04 Oct 2012   #25
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

You have only hidden it from your PC. What will happen when it is connected to some other PC and someone "inadvertantly messed up with the external drive"?

I would consider killing the VCD and annexing the partition as a total solution. Anything else is a make-shift arrangement.
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05 Oct 2012   #26
Birddude007

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jumanji View Post
You have only hidden it from your PC. What will happen when it is connected to some other PC and someone "inadvertantly messed up with the external drive"?

I would consider killing the VCD and annexing the partition as a total solution. Anything else is a make-shift arrangement.
Well I have already started to use it and have a bunch of data on it, ya I know the VCD is just hidden on my computer but as long as it stays that way then I am happy, no one else uses my HD, it is exclusively used by me and will remain that way.
that HD will just basically have a bunch of data on it that I could live with or without.
My new Seagate will have all my important images (from my photography business) stored on it.
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05 Oct 2012   #27
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 

Let us know if plugging the external into another PC visibly loads the driver and then whether again disabling it in Device Manager solves the problem again without further problems.

I read google results on this crapware for over an hour and didn't see exactly how to rid of it completely. In the past I've wiped any externals of crapware without issue but WD insists this will not work here. I'm sorry if I missed it Jumanji but how exactly is the drive rid of the firmware permanently without issue?

Thanks.
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06 Oct 2012   #28
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

greg, it is here, an actual user experience. How to remove hidden Virtual CD (VCD) partitions on your Western Digital external disks

Formatting with HP USB Disk Storage Format Tool seems to kill it effectively (provided it is an older model wherein the VCD is 700 MB containing the Smartware. As I gather from OP's screenshot, he seems to have this 700MB partition.)

In later models of WD hard drives, the VCD partition is only 20MB and serves only to lock/unlock the drive. The unlocker partition resides on an HPA ( Host Protected Area) set in the DCO ( Device Configuration Overlay ) making it much more difficult to get rid of.

Even the HP Tool may not be able to kill it ( someone with a 20MB VCD partition has to try and confirm it and I don't have an WD drive with it ). I understand that dd in Linux, HDat2 etc., can deal with it and annex it to the other main visible partition.

WD having consistently refused to help users in getting rid of it and directing them to buy only plain HDDs without Smartware/VCD if they do not want it, one has to be extra careful when buying WD drives to avoid these pains later.

EDIT: greg, This thread and the links therein may be of interest to you. I know you can work on it and come with solutions when needed.
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06 Oct 2012   #29
Birddude007

Windows 7 64 bit
 
 

I havent tried it out on a different computer yet, but then again I believe the ol' "If it aint broke, don't fix it" analogy, I just got the WD HD working the way I want it and I think I will leave well enough alone, I have learned that if I try to screw with things like this with my limited computer knowledge then I am sure to break it. I can live without the 700 MB that that crapware takes up.
My Seagate has lots of promise, I think I will put all my eggs in THAT basket, and just use the WD for other things.
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06 Oct 2012   #30
jumanji

Windows 7 Home Premium 32 bit
 
 

^ Absolutely no compulsions .

My previous post was in reply to gregrocker's query that preceded it.
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