New build has issues booting

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  1.    #11

    Gav86 said:
    gregrocker said:
    Did you wait to see which GPU and mobo drivers Win7 wanted you to use via optional Updates after enabling Automatically get recommended drivers and updates for your hardware ?

    If you have the full chipset installed by the installer and subsequent Updates then I'd run with that for awhile to see if using the drivers Win7 wants helps.

    Of course you want to supply a GPU driver if you're left with only Standard VGA, but otherwise I'd also run with what Win7 gives first.
    I didn't, to be honest, no. There were a number of exclamation marks in device manager which the mobo driver disc sorted. And it was Standard VGA to start with, but I correctly installed the ATI drivers.

    Would it even boot at all though if there were problems with these drivers? When it does finally fully boot, it works flawlessly. And i can restart the machine with no issues.

    Apologies if this is all basic stuff, its been a good 5+ years since my last PC build.
    It is actually new in Win7 where MS has made such an investment in getting the drivers into the installer and via optional Windows Updates that it often pays for building them itself under WHQL so it has them first, and manufacturers won't hold out.

    So the recommended procedure is to do all of your Important and optional Windows Updates first after enabling Automatically get recommended drivers and updates for your hardware, and only then import any missing in Device Manager. You can then test performance to see if you need different drivers, and you will know if the issue is present with the baseline drivers Win7 wants.

    There are exceptions with the GPU since Standard VGA is only meant to be a placeholder driver except for the oldest hardware.

    I would pursue the Power Supply issue Layback brought up equally since it is a good possibility.
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  2. Posts : 10
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       #12

    Many thanks for the replies guys. I will look into another PSU tomorrow.

    Please, excuse my ignorance, though, but i have another question (just trying to understand all of this!). If the PSU was having issues powering the computer/GPU upon boot,would it not have issues doing something more intensive? I've just tried some Team Fortress 2 and it ran super smooth with everything on high. No GPU issues or reboots.
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  3. Posts : 25,847
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       #13

    I understand the confusion. My major point is when you work a power supply at its upper end and your have a middle of the road power supply at best it's cause for concern. When you work a power supply at it upper end it creates a lot of extra heat.
    Many time when a power supply goes bad it sometimes damages other thing motherboard, video card and can destroy your computer. In your cheaper power supplies expansion and contraction due to varying heat can cause it to work different at different temperatures. They put that thick case around a power supply for a reason. When they blow its like a little bomb. I had one blow about 4 months ago. What made it blow I have no idea but it did blow the tops off of every capacitor in it.
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       #14

    Gav86 said:
    Please, excuse my ignorance, though, but i have another question (just trying to understand all of this!). If the PSU was having issues powering the computer/GPU upon boot,would it not have issues doing something more intensive? I've just tried some Team Fortress 2 and it ran super smooth with everything on high. No GPU issues or reboots.
    Maybe but if the PSU had some poor solder joints they would not pass, conduct, current very well when cold/cool and make a better connection when it gets warmer.

    Most all components will draw the same amount of power whether sitting idle or doing something. Actually there are no parts in a computer that sit idle. HDD are always spinning, CPU, GPU and RAM are always drawing power. They get hotter when you put a load on them but they won't draw much more power under that load. It's not like a Power saw that is binding up or a car going up a steep hill.
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  5. Posts : 10
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       #15

    Ok, so i have put in a new PSU (also larger, at 750W).

    It booted to Windows straight away, then after about 15 seconds reset itself.
    It rebooted straight into Windows again and so far no issues.

    So. Its better. But it still did it the first time!

    EDIT: Wow. Not 30 seconds after i posted this, it turned off. Ugh. Back to square one.
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  6. Posts : 10
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       #16

    Event viewer posted this at the time of both crashes this evening:

    - System

    - Provider

    [ Name] Microsoft-Windows-Kernel-Power
    [ Guid] {331C3B3A-2005-44C2-AC5E-77220C37D6B4}

    EventID 41

    Version 2

    Level 1

    Task 63

    Opcode 0

    Keywords 0x8000000000000002

    - TimeCreated

    [ SystemTime] 2012-10-15T16:51:23.389201500Z

    EventRecordID 4675

    Correlation

    - Execution

    [ ProcessID] 4
    [ ThreadID] 8

    Channel System

    Computer Gav-PC

    - Security

    [ UserID] S-1-5-18


    - EventData

    BugcheckCode 0
    BugcheckParameter1 0x0
    BugcheckParameter2 0x0
    BugcheckParameter3 0x0
    BugcheckParameter4 0x0
    SleepInProgress false
    PowerButtonTimestamp 0
    I Googled the error and found this:
    http://www.techsupportforum.com/foru...or-434613.html
    I have 2 Audio Drivers here, so have disabled one. Will this stay disabled at all times or restart itself when i reboot?

    So i will see how this goes when i turn the machine on tomorrow morning!

    Edit: Sorry to keep posting. Event viewer is showing error 3221225485 - Kernel-EventTracing fairly often. Im not sure what to do about this. If anything?
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  7. Posts : 983
    7 x64
       #17

    Gav86 said:
    Ok, so i have put in a new PSU (also larger, at 750W).

    It booted to Windows straight away, then after about 15 seconds reset itself.
    It rebooted straight into Windows again and so far no issues.

    So. Its better. But it still did it the first time!

    EDIT: Wow. Not 30 seconds after i posted this, it turned off. Ugh. Back to square one.
    Not really square one as it wasn't Doing that before? Was it?

    Do a Clean install of the OS.
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  8. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #18

    Can you post the site showing the power supply you selected?
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  9. Posts : 10
    Windows 7 Home Premium 64Bit
    Thread Starter
       #19

    I can do yeah. I dont think thats the problem though.

    It has taken a long time to boot this morning. I stopped counting the reboots when it got to twenty...
    Running now, but with no idea what the issue is.
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  10.    #20

    Are there any drivers missing or in error in Device Manager?

    Work through these other Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
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