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Windows 7: Access Files on Non-Windows Partition

30 Oct 2012   #1
eduede

Windows 7 Home Ultimate 64-Bit, Ubuntu 10.04 Lucid Lynx, Windows XP
 
 
Access Files on Non-Windows Partition

Hey guys,

so, I've got a laptop with a Windows partition and an Ubuntu partition. I'm pretty sure I just botched an Ubuntu upgrade.

What I'd like to do is get my documents off of the Ubuntu partition. Is there a way to access that partition from windows (i.e. the window's partition)?

-eamon


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30 Oct 2012   #2
Kaktussoft

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win7 can't read those file systems! Boot into linux livecd and copy the files to a FAT32 partition.
Win7 can read that afterwards
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30 Oct 2012   #3
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Googling a little about an easy way for doing that, found that article: 3 Ways to Access Your Linux Partitions From Windows - How-To Geek

Basically, Windows cannot read EXT partitions directly on its own, but there are a few programs/drivers that can make it able to use them normally. Never tried it, though.
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30 Oct 2012   #4
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Ntfs

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
win7 can't read those file systems! Boot into linux livecd and copy the files to a FAT32 partition.
Win7 can read that afterwards
Why bother with FAT?
Ubuntu can read/write NTFS data.

The only "problem" I've noticed is that it generally read/writes at about 50% of the speed you'd see in Windows (i.e. on my PC: ~30 MB/s versus ~60 MB/s)

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alejandro85 View Post
Googling a little about an easy way for doing that, found that article: 3 Ways to Access Your Linux Partitions From Windows - How-To Geek

Basically, Windows cannot read EXT partitions directly on its own, but there are a few programs/drivers that can make it able to use them normally. Never tried it, though.
I have tried a couple, but they were a little bit flaky or demanded payments.

You should be able to access the data using your Ubuntu CD.
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31 Oct 2012   #5
Kaktussoft

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Why bother with FAT?
Ubuntu can read/write NTFS data.

The only "problem" I've noticed is that it generally read/writes at about 50% of the speed you'd see in Windows (i.e. on my PC: ~30 MB/s versus ~60 MB/s)
If you do that the ntfs volume is written to WITHOUT updating system restore stuff. All restore points will be invalid. You can't do a system restore afterwards. Unless you delete all restore points and create a new one.
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31 Oct 2012   #6
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Interesting

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If you do that the ntfs volume is written to WITHOUT updating system restore stuff. All restore points will be invalid. You can't do a system restore afterwards. Unless you delete all restore points and create a new one.
I must admit I've never tried doing a System Restore just after writing from Ubuntu.
In any case, I only run System Restore on my OS partition.

All of my data is on other partitions and I image those (so that issue has never come up).

Thanks for that info Kaktussoft.

P.S.
I didn't know that System Restore worked on FAT.
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31 Oct 2012   #7
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
If you do that the ntfs volume is written to WITHOUT updating system restore stuff. All restore points will be invalid. You can't do a system restore afterwards. Unless you delete all restore points and create a new one.
I must admit I've never tried doing a System Restore just after writing from Ubuntu.
In any case, I only run System Restore on my OS partition.

All of my data is on other partitions and I image those (so that issue has never come up).

Thanks for that info Kaktussoft.

P.S.
I didn't know that System Restore worked on FAT.
I told him to write the files to FAT partition instead of NTFS. Only NTFS supports system restore (actually volume shadowing). But only if written to by WIN7/WIN8/VISTA. If linux or some rescuetool writes to it, they become invalid!
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31 Oct 2012   #8
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Ah, I see

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
I told him to write the files to FAT partition instead of NTFS. Only NTFS supports system restore (actually volume shadowing). But only if written to by WIN7/WIN8/VISTA. If linux or some rescuetool writes to it, they become invalid!
Thanks for that clarification Kaktussoft.
I thought that was the case.

However since System Restore doesn't work on FAT, why not just create another NTFS partition and disable System Restore, on that partition only?
Ubuntu and W7 can both write to it and you would get the other benefits of NTFS (compared to FAT).

Are you saying that even if you disable System Restore on a NTFS partition and then you write to it using Ubuntu, all of the other System Restore points (on other partitions) become corrupted?
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01 Nov 2012   #9
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by lehnerus2000 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
I told him to write the files to FAT partition instead of NTFS. Only NTFS supports system restore (actually volume shadowing). But only if written to by WIN7/WIN8/VISTA. If linux or some rescuetool writes to it, they become invalid!
Thanks for that clarification Kaktussoft.
I thought that was the case.

However since System Restore doesn't work on FAT, why not just create another NTFS partition and disable System Restore, on that partition only?
Ubuntu and W7 can both write to it and you would get the other benefits of NTFS (compared to FAT).

Are you saying that even if you disable System Restore on a NTFS partition and then you write to it using Ubuntu, all of the other System Restore points (on other partitions) become corrupted?
If you write to an NTFS partition not from vista,win7,win8.... that partition's restore points become invalid.

I just wanted to say: Don't use the OS-partition to transfer the files to.
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01 Nov 2012   #10
lehnerus2000

W7 Ultimate SP1, LM18 MATE, W10IP VM, W10 Home, #All 64 bit
 
 
Thanks Kaktussoft

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
If you write to an NTFS partition not from vista,win7,win8.... that partition's restore points become invalid.

I just wanted to say: Don't use the OS-partition to transfer the files to.
I'm glad we cleared that up.
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