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Windows 7: Would You Reject A Pre-Built PC Because Of Windows 8

13 Jan 2013   #21
linnemeyerhere

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Windows 7 Ultimate 64
 
 

To me the build and sourcing of the parts is the whole reason I won't touch a pre-built rig. I want to take the time and do the work. Can you get a rig for less.....possibly but will it have the parts mix exactly as I want it......not likely. Now if the build out of the the components isn't your bag then as whs mentions you have options or you can just use the Windows 8 and you'll be somewhat ahead of the game, as I seriously don't like W8 over W7 but I fear that MS isn't going backwards and will only move forward into this highly mobile device driven OS from here on out.


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13 Jan 2013   #22
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

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as I seriously don't like W8 over Windows 7 but I fear that MS isn't going backwards and will only move forward into this highly mobile device driven OS from here on out.
You are probably right. But over time, there will be other alternatives that will make us independent of M$. Already now I spend more time on my Android tablet than on the PCs. And the tablet is more fun anyhow.
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14 Jan 2013   #23
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

A life without Microsoft; shame on you. That can't be.
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14 Jan 2013   #24
Britton30
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Well to answer the post's topic, I would not cripple my self buying a new PC with W8 on it. I tried to like it and use it, failed on both.
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14 Jan 2013   #25
LittleJay

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit SP 1
 
 

Would I buy a PC with Windows 8 installed on it? Probably not, because I have reached the stage where I would rather build my own.
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14 Jan 2013   #26
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
Well to answer the post's topic, I would not cripple my self buying a new PC with W8 on it. I tried to like it and use it, failed on both.
I just want to thank Brittion30 and many others for taking the time to find out they do not like Win 8 and saving me the grief of having to do it myself.
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14 Jan 2013   #27
yvesj

window 7 home premium 64 bits
 
 

i have been building all my pc .i do it the way i like it it and i never run in to problem ever .
i have 4 pc running now .3 using ssd .one using 2 window on it .dual boot.window 7 and xp .
my last build last month a complite restart is 24 secs this what i mean by do it the way you want it .fast .cust about 700.00 in parts or a little less .
and my other 3 on ssd restart in 32 secs not bad since i only been using a computer since 2007 and 68 with grade 6 1959
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14 Jan 2013   #28
gregrocker

 

I also have tried to like Win8 but don't see it's justification for replacing the desktop experience for which Win7 remains the state of the art and best ever. There are tens of millions of users who rely on a productive desktop environment and not flashy Playskool buttons interface for social media browsing. They had only largely just started to get to know Win7 before it was yanked off of new PC's and replaced by a GUI that makes the desktop experience an unintuitive PITA.

Even if you graft on the Win7 Start Screen using Windows 7 Start Menu for Windows 8 and add back the replica 8GadgetPack - Gadgets for Windows 8 then what you have is a slightly clumsy Win7 which can't keep my attention for long before I want to get back to the real thing.

I was waiting to see Win7 show its age some (like XP) before naturally migrating to the next version. This is not only forced, but with Direct X 11 not being made available to Win7 and some other pressure it's being made compulsory. The equivalent would be the most wildly popular car model being discontinued to force users to an "upgrade model" which most don't like and which another maker has already done better.

Being swamped with helping those who still want Win7 here - including an increasing number struggling to get out of Win8 they didn't want - we can pretty much ignore it for now. But this self-imposed disaster is never far from mind for those of us who are still justifiably proud of tech's greatest achievement.
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14 Jan 2013   #29
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

M$ has a taken a like it or lump it approach attitude with Win 8 so I'm going to lump it since I don't like it. One of the things I liked about XP and Win 7 is they both natively supported cutomization. I hate icons, preferring more efficient lists in menus. I don't keep program icons on my desktop. I prefer having my most frequently used programs on the taskbar and using the Start Menu for the rest. I use the desktop for virtual post-it notes, a calendar, and as a temporary parking place for documents in progress (they are more likely to be dealt with in a timely manner if they are in my face when booting up).

Win 8 has taken much of that away. XP and Win 7 at least let's me reduce the size of the hated icons; Win 8 replaced them with ugly, big, clunky tiles. I have ADHD and need the Start Menu; there is no way in (ahem) I'm going to remember all the programs I use occasionally well enough to call them up without a menu to jog my memory and the alternative is too cumbersome. Win 8 has taken away too many features I depend on. Sure, there are ways to get a Start Menu, etc. back with add-on programs but why should I?

I have a love hate relationshop with touch screens; I love to hate them. For some weird reason, they do not always respond to my touch (drove me nuts when a company I used to work for went to them for cash registers). I've had adhesive capsulitis (aka frozen shoulder) in both shoulders (and hips) which haven't fully healed and using a desktop touch screen desktop monitor (let alone multiple monitors) would quickly become extremely painful. I've seriously contemplated suing M$ for an ADA (American Disability Act) violation for trying to force people to use touch screens (true, a mouse and keyboard can be used but I haven't found them to be as efficient in Win 8, espeially since there is no way I'll ever remember keyboard shortcuts).

Win 8 is great for tablets, smaller machines like notebooks, and people who use their computers for emails, social media, websurfing, playing solitaire, etc. but pretty much worthless for serious computing. Even M$'s ads show people playing with their Win 8 machines, not using them for serious computing. Sure, desktop sales are down but the only people they are losing are the ones who never used their computers to their full potential in the first place. Win 8 is just too much of an impediment for people who do serious computing, especially multitasking.

I'm voting with my feet and pocket book by not buying Win 8 or machines infected with it (the only machines I plan on buying are loptop or notebooks anyway and only when my current one dies). Even if M$ wakes up and restores the functions they took out, I've alreay committed myself to using Win 7 until it gives its last, dying gasp 01/14/2020. I have two retail copies of Win 7 Ultimate and one of Home Premium and don't see the point of replacing them as long as they meet my needs (considering I used XP without problems until recently, it's likely Win 7 will continue to meet my needs for the rest of its life). Same for M$ Office. I recently upgraded from 2007 to 2010 so it would last through the EOL date of Win 7 (Office 2013 hasn't impressed me; it's too much like Win 8).
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14 Jan 2013   #30
Solarstarshines

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by whs View Post
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as I seriously don't like W8 over Windows 7 but I fear that MS isn't going backwards and will only move forward into this highly mobile device driven OS from here on out.
You are probably right. But over time, there will be other alternatives that will make us independent of M$. Already now I spend more time on my Android tablet than on the PCs. And the tablet is more fun anyhow.

I have to agree My Android isn't top notch but boy oh boy it is fun

why not get a barebones kit be the same thing with out the OS and then supply your own

I might add with the cost of it being prebuilt with a OS is more costly then building and quality parts can be found for a decent price if you in the right places besides this you would have to have it shipped etc which could damage it before reaching your door just some things to think about
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