| Windows 7: OEM version - a little info please... "UPDATE" |
28 Sep 2009
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#1 | | XP, Vista Ultimate, trying Win7 |
OEM version - a little info please... "UPDATE" It appears my friend may be confusing OEM version with OEM packaging. This is the software package he is looking at currently being sold at Newegg: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1PK DSP English Full - OEM
He contacted Newegg and they refused to provide any clarification as to what it is they are selling. He called Microsoft and they told him he needs to buy a FULL RETAIL (remember new hard drive - new custom built system). My questions then are: As I read the above it looks like it is a FULL version NOT AN OEM software version but is OEM with regards to the packaging. It states on the 4th bullet down "Packaging: OEM". Is this how you would read this? Secondly, and my friend had a point, the total difference in price is about $90.00 (RETAIL vs. This version) can this all be in packaging - think not - yet it states FULL. So, would he be entitled to MS assistance (should he need it), if so, how do they justify the large price difference? What would not be included (if anything)?? Bottom line is he is afraid he buy the wrong version and will be stuck with a TRUE OEM version that is tied to the MB and will be a pain in the ass should he have problems. I hate to see him spend more money than he has to. He doesn't need the fancy plastic box and color inset so IF this version IS the same as the RETAIL just without the PR crap then this is the one he should go with - yes - no...?? THANKS for further clarification on this.... | My System Specs |
| OS XP, Vista Ultimate, trying Win7 |
28 Sep 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Ultimate The Southern Hinterlands |
The only difference between the two, is Microsoft will not support an OEM version. Other than that they are identical, afaik ... | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ASUSTeK Computer INC. CM5675 OS Windows 7 Ultimate CPU Core(TM) i5 CPU 650 @ 3.20GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK Computer INC. CM5675 Memory 6.00 GB Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics Sound Card Intel HD integtrated Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 24' Screen Resolution 1900/1020 Hard Drives (1) INTEL SSD SA2M120G2GC ATA Device (2) ST31000528AS ATA Device Internet Speed 30mb |
28 Sep 2009
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Yes, that is an OEM version. It can only be installed and activated on one PC...and cannot be later moved to another PC. I just bought a Vista OEM from NewEgg for my new box with a free upgrade to Windows 7. It's got the booklet, and all the standard materials. It's just limited in terms of installations and moves.
And Microsoft doesn't support it. It's meant for system builders...who will be the ones providing the support for the end user.
The $90 savings is more or less accepting the fact that you cannot put this installation on another machine down the road. So, let's say in 2 years he gets a new case, new PSU, new mobo, new RAM, new hard drive, new video card, etc. Technically, he would also have to purchase another copy of Windows for this new machine. Be it retail or OEM.
NewEgg (or other retailers) are really only supposed to sell the OEM disks with hardware purchases to system builders. Hence the reason you couldn't get info from them. And Microsoft is not intending end-users to buy OEM copies through retail chains like this...hence the reason they say you need to be a retail copy. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
28 Sep 2009
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#4 | | Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1 So California |
I've use Newegg "OEM" software may times. The only real differance is the packaging. Go ahead and save the bucks.
Ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Dell Optiplex 980 OS Win7 x64 Ultimate SP1 CPU Intel i7-2600 Memory 8 Gig Graphics Card Geforce gt 520 Monitor(s) Displays LG & Acer Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Internet Speed Fios 45/35 Other Info Windows Home Server |
28 Sep 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by ken9122 I've use Newegg "OEM" software may times. The only real differance is the packaging. Go ahead and save the bucks.
Ken It's not just the packaging though. If the person wanted to install it onto 1 computer today and another computer 6 months later, the OEM software wouldn't be the right choice as it cannot be moved to another computer without twisting Microsoft's arm and violating the end-user license agreement.
And as stated, you don't get support from MS on OEM versions. MS expects the OEM or system builder to help you.
I agree that if neither of these matters impact you, save the money. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
28 Sep 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 If the person wanted to install it onto 1 computer today and another computer 6 months later, the OEM software wouldn't be the right choice as it cannot be moved to another computer without twisting Microsoft's arm and violating the end-user license agreement. Technically that's true, but in the real world we all know the licence moves without any more trouble than doing the automated phone activation. | My System Specs | | OS NT4 CPU Cyrix 233 Motherboard Jetway Memory 8 Meg Graphics Card Voodoo Sound Card SB16 Monitor(s) Displays 14" CRT Screen Resolution 800x600 Keyboard Yes Mouse Yes Hard Drives 40meg Internet Speed 56k |
28 Sep 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by SGT Oddball Technically that's true, but in the real world we all know the licence moves without any more trouble than doing the automated phone activation. But I always phrase things to stay in compliance with the actual end-user license agreement. If it says you cannot move it, you shouldn't move it. Otherwise, you should buy something that you can move. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Self-Built in July 2009 OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 CPU Intel Q9550 2.83Ghz OC'd to 3.40Ghz Motherboard Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3R rev. 1.1, F12 BIOS Memory 8GB G.Skill PI DDR2-800, 4-4-4-12 timings Graphics Card EVGA 1280MB Nvidia GeForce GTX570 Sound Card Realtek ALC899A 8 channel onboard audio Monitor(s) Displays 23" Acer x233H Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard ABS M1 Mechanical Mouse Logitech G9 Laser Mouse PSU Corsair 620HX modular Case Antec P182 Cooling stock Hard Drives Intel X25-M 80GB Gen 2 SSD
Western Digital 1TB Caviar Black, 32MB cache. WD1001FALS Internet Speed 15/2 cable modem Other Info Windows and Linux enthusiast. Logitech G35 Headset. |
28 Sep 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 The Wild West |

Quote: Originally Posted by SGT Oddball 
Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 If the person wanted to install it onto 1 computer today and another computer 6 months later, the OEM software wouldn't be the right choice as it cannot be moved to another computer without twisting Microsoft's arm and violating the end-user license agreement. Technically that's true, but in the real world we all know the licence moves without any more trouble than doing the automated phone activation. This is my problem. I am always switching mobos and don't expect to change the way I do things. If I need to do the same phone activation with retail or OEM....why not save the $$. I have been going to buy retail but the more I think about it, the more I want OEM.
Night hawk, are you saying retail is the same when you move to another mobo? If so I am just going to get OEM. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
28 Sep 2009
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#9 | | Windows 7 Professional x64 The Wild West |

Quote: Originally Posted by pparks1 
Quote: Originally Posted by SGT Oddball Technically that's true, but in the real world we all know the licence moves without any more trouble than doing the automated phone activation. But I always phrase things to stay in compliance with the actual end-user license agreement. If it says you cannot move it, you shouldn't move it. Otherwise, you should buy something that you can move. What CAN you move? I have heard retail is the same as OEM to move mobos. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Keeps changing - (Custom) OS Windows 7 Professional x64 CPU Intel Core i7 860 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P55-UD4P Memory 4GB DDR3 Mushkin 1600Mhz @ 7-8-7-20 Graphics Card MSI GTS250 1GB DDR3 Twin Frozr Sound Card Onboard realtek Monitor(s) Displays Samsung SyncMaster 24" P2450 + Samsung 20" 2033 Screen Resolution 1920 X 1080 and 1600 X 900 (#2 system 1440 X 900) Keyboard Gigabyte USB keyboard Mouse Microsoft wireless laser mouse 5000 PSU Corsair 750 HX Modular Case Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Cooler Master TX3 CPU cooler and 4-140mm and 1-120mm case Hard Drives Patriot Inferno 120GB SSD + 3 WD Blue 640GB drives Internet Speed 7 Mb down 1.5 up Other Info System #2: AMD Phenom II X6 1055T (Freezer 7 Pro cooler) - Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H - WD 500GB Black - 9500GT (1GB) 500W OCZ modular PSU - Antec 200 case. System #3 (LapTop) Core 2 Duo T6670 - 320GB 7200RPM HD - 4GB DDR3 RAM. |
28 Sep 2009
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#10 | | Win 8 Release candidate 8400 |
If XP and Vista were any indications I would be able to change 2 major components (mobo, cpu, etc) before I had to phone activate. Phone activation was the same for OEM and retail, but who knows what tricks MS has up their sleeves for us now
ken | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number HP Pavillion dv-7 1005 Tx OS Win 8 Release candidate 8400 CPU 2@2.4 Memory 4 gigs Graphics Card Nvidia 9600M Sound Card HD built-in Monitor(s) Displays 17" Wxga Screen Resolution 1440x900 Cooling none Internet Speed 45Mb down 5Mb up OEM version - a little info please... "UPDATE" problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:58 AM. | |