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Windows 7: Why is Windows 7 64-bit not 64-bit?

05 Dec 2012   #41
vaidas3

Windows 7 pro 64bit. (SP1)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Spock3 View Post
cytherian, that is my "underlying" concern. Yes, I want it to be "perfect". Unfortunately Windows is far from being "perfect". Never mind "backwards compatibility". I do not intend to use any 32-bit programs. I also surely don't need 'Paint' or 'Wordpad', neither do I need 'Notepad' or MS 'Mail'. The least MS could do is give the consumer a choice to install what he wants. - I remember having had an Atari Falcon in 1993. The operating system (TOS 4) came on a 1.44 MB floppy, gave me multitasking, virtual memory management, 3d desktop, and the essential file operations. And then I could add whatever I wanted! Now I get more than a gigabyte of stuff and what I only want is a 64-bit operating system to run 64-bit applications, and only those!

so? you can use your TOS4 and add whatever you want. why use windows 7 64bit that are not pure and still have 32bit code.. there is always choice. MS made windows 7 not "pure" 64bit because there is lot of 32bit software out there or some 64bit software still is not pure 64bit.
what prblems does 32bit have? why all the worry.. on some systems I still use 32bit windows 7 os and i dont feel inferior or dont have any issue. I use 64bit windows and its working too its not pure 64bit but at this time there will be very hard time for pure 64bit os.
if your needs are very specific or you think there is problem where there is none.. that doesnt mean that MS should rewrite 64bit windows 7


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05 Dec 2012   #42
cheezz

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

He's a dumb ass or a troll!
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05 Dec 2012   #43
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

I downloaded XP64 on a trial the day it came out. It was hard to figure out at first but it was faster than regular 32 bit XP. Some stuff would not install as some of the old setup programs called 16 bit or even 8 bit processes. I liked XP 64 and I still have a virtual machine of it to this day. 32 bit is for compatibility, I use Winamp, Goldwave and other tools that are 32 bit but function perfectly in the 64 bit world. Good luck finding a media player as good as Winamp on 64bit at the moment. Goldwave is an awesome program and is 32 bit but like many things takes advantages of the 64 bit operating system being able to address more memory. MS sells a 64 bit version of Office but warns you not to install it unless it is really needed due to computability issues with add ins and third party tools and macros.
I think 64 bit is great. I can address huge amounts of memory and CPU processes and yet I have an Windows on Windows emulator that enables me to play Jezzball from Windows 311 days. 64 bit programs will also call 32 bit DLL's on occasion and if they are not there as you somehow managed to delete the files it will crash.
I don't see what your problem is, either you are just winding us all up or maybe you should do as others have suggested and read up and learn.
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05 Dec 2012   #44
Spock3

7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

"He's a dumb ass or a troll!"
This seems to be the best answer so far.
I didn't know you have such people on this forum.
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05 Dec 2012   #45
Spock3

7 Ultimate 64-bit
 
 

Indianatone, you don't understand what I use the PC for. It is a machine solely used for audioprocessing! As you probably know 16 or 24 channels of audio require a lot of memory to run smoothly simultaneously. Composing a song with lots of virtual instruments (VST) requires lots of RAM to run smoothly. I know, you can do all this with a 32-bit system and a 4 GB memory limit. But you have to encounter frequent interruptions in your work.
Now, let me put it this way: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit maybe an OS supporting 64-bit applications, but for professional use it is a pain in the - you know what.
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05 Dec 2012   #46
ganjiry

Win7 Home Premium x64 SP1
 
 

You must be Really bored to argue about something so rediculous. Its not like that part of the os is using all your systems resources. nothing about it will hinder your audio processing. if your worried about the memory its aparantly wasting. Buy some more.
go troll the xbox comunity they love trolls

what a waste of life. you could be doing something worthwhile instead of this
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05 Dec 2012   #47
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Spock3 View Post
Indianatone, you don't understand what I use the PC for. It is a machine solely used for audioprocessing! As you probably know 16 or 24 channels of audio require a lot of memory to run smoothly simultaneously. Composing a song with lots of virtual instruments (VST) requires lots of RAM to run smoothly. I know, you can do all this with a 32-bit system and a 4 GB memory limit. But you have to encounter frequent interruptions in your work.
Now, let me put it this way: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit maybe an OS supporting 64-bit applications, but for professional use it is a pain in the - you know what.
Well I have an answer for you. Use real musicians that play real music. It would probably sound better and you can record it and mix it on your PC, I know I could do it on mine!
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05 Dec 2012   #48
Howdr

Win 7 7100
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Spock3 View Post
Layback Bear, I always make "clean" installations of Operating Systems! But the installation itself is "unclean", as it doesn't let me choose what I want to install.
Sounds like you want Linux
Don't put OSX on it takes all Control
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05 Dec 2012   #49
DeaconFrost

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Spock3 View Post
Now, let me put it this way: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit maybe an OS supporting 64-bit applications, but for professional use it is a pain in the - you know what.
See, now you are insulting all of us professionals who do use it.

I'm going to try and keep this polite, but here goes. You really have no idea what you are talking about, and anyone's attempt to educate you falls on deaf ears. There is nothing "unclean" about your install, and if you think that, then you have no understanding of how any Operating System works. Linux and OSX ALL use "hybrid" code as you put it. It's just how computers work.

You have this mindset of only needing 64-bit applications, but yet you have no idea why. In many cases, the 64-bit app isn't any different or any better, nor does it work any more efficiently than it's 32 bit version.

As mentioned above by others, unless you are willing to write your own OS and make it support your own hardware, this is how you will be using your computer..."unclean" as you put it.

Surely you have much more important things to worry about in your "professional" career than this topic. If your sole function of that computer is to create music, then I will absolutely, 100% guarantee that your "unclean" system isn't negatively affected by that folder being present on your system, and I'd even go so far as to tell you it is necessary for your system's stability.

Spend your time using the computer for its purpose, rather than trying to invent issues where there isn't one.
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05 Dec 2012   #50
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

I think you are being ridiculous. As a German countryman, let me tell you this.

Most programs are still x32 today and it would be hard to operate a PC without them. And in some instances they are better than the x64 versions - e.g. IE. The x86 program files are not going to hurt you, don't be afraid.
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