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Windows 7: Can I provide Win7 DVD to customer if I use OEM?

08 Jan 2013   #31
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink............


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08 Jan 2013   #32
Wishmaster

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

If this is a paying customer, what are software options for Imaging? Windows built in one?

Because one thing you could do is install everything and have it set up the way you want it. You could then image the PC at that point. That Image could be on another disc, partition, or burned to a DVD as a restore point from day 1.

This would give your customer a way to restore to new condition, with re-installing and seting up Windows .. needing the key etc.
But, it may require something like Macrium Reflect or Acronis be installed. You can also give them the Windows Key for thier version just in case they need it, but going this route they may not.

Just a thought. I always do that for PCs I build for friends and family.
Usually a main restore Image burned to physical Media of the Setup, and a recovery disc of the Imaging software (typically Acronis that I use).
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08 Jan 2013   #33
Mugsy

Win7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Yes it is. Take a closer look.

To start with, Full Retail used to go for $199.99. Now you can get it for as low as $169.63
Ah. I was thinking of the "upgrade" version, which went for $99 (but can now be found for $89.)
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08 Jan 2013   #34
TwoCables

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mugsy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Yes it is. Take a closer look.

To start with, Full Retail used to go for $199.99. Now you can get it for as low as $169.63
Ah. I was thinking of the "upgrade" version, which went for $99 (but can now be found for $89.)
Wow. Yeah, Newegg is still selling the Upgrade version for $119.99. This is the same price it has always sold for on Newegg, and it's the price it was selling for everywhere I found it when Windows 7 was new. The only $99 copies of Windows 7 I ever found were OEM. On eBay, I'm seeing the Windows 7 Upgrade for $89.99 now. haha Wow.

Anyway, I feel that buying an OEM copy like this can be the best thing to do because then you get to install it, activate it, and then include the DVD with the computer. The Product Key is stuck to the sleeve, so there's no need to write it down anywhere or find a place for it.

After installing it and setting everything up and making sure it's running perfectly, you can find ways to make a Restore Disc for them. However, I have never attempted this, so I don't know where to begin with that.
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08 Jan 2013   #35
bigmck

Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Mugsy View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post
Yes it is. Take a closer look.

To start with, Full Retail used to go for $199.99. Now you can get it for as low as $169.63
Ah. I was thinking of the "upgrade" version, which went for $99 (but can now be found for $89.)
You can't use an Upgrade version on a PC without any OS on it. Those are Microsoft EULA rules. Just buy an OEM version, install Win 7, put in the activation key and give your customer the disk. That is the end of it. You are making this a lot harder than it is.
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08 Jan 2013   #36
TwoCables

 

Nah, he wasn't thinking about using the Upgrade version.
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08 Jan 2013   #37
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You are building a pc for a customer, so of course they would buy windows, whether it be retail or oem. That is the professional way to do it. How else would they get their key ? And I would hope you would explain the difference between oem and retail.

They buy windows and you just charge them for your labor ( the install ), make sense.
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08 Jan 2013   #38
TwoCables

 

Exactly.

You are not increasing the cost by charging them for the cost of Windows 7. You are keeping it legit by doing that. If you don't include the cost, then you are giving them Windows 7 for free. However, you can do what the big manufacturers do and say that you are including Windows 7 with the computer. You don't have to say that you are including the cost of Windows 7 in the total price of the computer. They sure don't!

Besides, if I were having someone build a computer for me, then I would expect the following as it relates:
  • Windows 7 installed, Product Key entered, but not activated yet (yes, I have changed my mind about this, and I have a good reason for it)
  • Software installed that I requested to have installed (and not activated)
  • The Windows 7 installation DVD that was used to install Windows 7 onto my new computer
  • The Product Key that came with the DVD
  • The installation discs that came with my software
  • A recovery disc of some kind to restore my computer to the state it was in when I received my computer
By not having it activated, I get to activate it when I'm ready and from my internet connection (from my IP address). I don't know if the IP address matters, but the convenience of being able to activate it when I'm ready matters. I mean, what if I change my mind for some reason? This gives me 30 days to think about it, or close to 120 if I rearm it on the 28th or 29th day (doing it on the 30th makes me uncomfortable).

Not having my software activated where needed has the same reasoning.

Having the installation DVD and the Product Key gives me the option to format and start over fresh with this computer if I ever wanted to do that.

Having the installation discs that came with my software means I can format and start over without worrying about losing the software I paid for - if I want to keep any of it.

Having a recovery disc of some kind would be nice if the need arises where I would much prefer to go back to the way everything was on the first day.

So, it's all about having options and conveniences. This maximizes the overall value of my computer and the value of my builder's service.
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08 Jan 2013   #39
Mugsy

Win7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by AddRAM View Post
You are building a pc for a customer, so of course they would buy windows, whether it be retail or oem. That is the professional way to do it. How else would they get their key ?
No one ever said anything about not buying Windows. Just noting the price difference in an OEM install.

When you install the OEM version (retail too?), Windows runs but gives you a certain amount a time (a week? For some reason, "28 days" sticks in my head) to activate it before Windows no longer starts. Until then, Windows intermittently prompts you to purchase a key online.
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08 Jan 2013   #40
AddRAM

Windows 7 Pro x64 Windows 10 Pro x64
 
 

You said they want windows preinstalled which means they are buying windows. And I said, the professional way to do it when building a pc, which in this case is considered custom, is to either let the customer know how much windows cost and install it or have them buy it, up front, themselves.

Like I said, where`s the key gonna come from ?

So you`re gonna tell your customer, oh by the way, in 30 days your gonna have to buy a key for windows ?
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