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Windows 7: Lost File Type Icons in Windows Explorer

06 Dec 2013   #11
IveyLeaguer

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 v6.1.7600
 
 

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You're missing the point. I didn't expect you to dynamically change anything on-the-fly just to see the extensions.

The Folder Options -> View tab -> do not suppress known extensions option is a PERMANENT setting (at least for as long as you have it checked or un-checked). From that point on you will ALWAYS either see or not see the extensions.
If your filenames are long, you can just use "details" mode and spread the first column so that the entire name and extension is completely visible, if that works better for you.
I should have been more clear. I do both those things and always have. I can't get to first base doing anything if I can't see the extension. And always use 'details'. Never used anything else even when I'm not researching.

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Just stretch your window on that folder. Its size and location will be remembered when you close the window, and it will be the at the same place and with the same size when you next re-open that folder.

Also, if you spread the column heading separators so that the column detail data in each cell is fully visible, again that will be remembered by Windows when you close the Explorer window. Next time you re-open that folder the separators will be just where you last spread them.

If you want to be in "details" mode just set it, and spread the columns appropriately. Again, the extension will be easily visible after each file name... even if the mini-icons are not shown.
Again, I should have been more clear. I use both of those techniques all the time. Stretching the folder isn't a good option because I need to see at least half the web page I'm on, while scanning the Explorer file simultaneously.

There should be a screenshot below ...

Anyway, it's hard to explain, but I really need to see half of the webpage at the same time as Explorer. And after much experimentation, stretching so I can see more than half of Explorer window, doesn't work.

But that's why the icons are so important to me. I need to be able to see the file type icons at all times, or it slows me down. And of course that annoys me, as I do this many hours every day.

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You mean the recipe I provided above was NOT how you presumably rebuilt the icon cache? I don't know what alternate technique you had used, but the above command sequence is the right way to do it (as documented by the tutorial on this forum).
Can't recall. But I did both this time. I thought the command sequence was going to work for sure, but it didn't. It's something else.

Thanks again for your time on this.
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07 Dec 2013   #12
IveyLeaguer

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 v6.1.7600
 
 

Here's a better screenshot of my general work layout, better demonstrating the long title issue, which I need to see as I'm reading through articles and studies. Often I need to know the filetype, to help determine if and how to archive new info. That's the best I can explain it.

There's a few other things, like for some strange reason the file type icon triggers my memory as to the content of the file.

Just didn't want you guys thinking I'm somehow too stubborn to spread a folder or a column heading separator. Believe me, I've tried those things. I need to see the icons.

BTW, I've tried nuking the HD and reinstalling W7. But within weeks, the same thing happens. Makes me think it could be something in the registry. I'm comfortable working in the registry but I don't go in there tweaking or fooling around. So that's not it.

I do use a registry cleaner by Iobit, which has never caused a problem. And I use Ultimate Defrag and CCleaner, all excellent software, AFAIK. I never let anything install, and never get malware. All those bases are covered.

I suppose it's possible one of these utilities caused the problem. But it's only been recent, within the last year, and I've run W7 on this machine since it's release.

Here's the shot ........


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07 Dec 2013   #13
indianacarnie

 

Just sticking my nose in ....... but the "iobit" raises red flags to me. Have you tried a system restore to a point before you first used it on the last install? Do you have a back-up of any files your registry "cleaner" deleted?

Here's a tutorial that includes a way to restore your registry to pristine conditions, just click on the link : Startup Repair Infinite Loop Recovery
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07 Dec 2013   #14
IveyLeaguer

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 v6.1.7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by indianacarnie View Post
Just sticking my nose in ....... but the "iobit" raises red flags to me. Have you tried a system restore to a point before you first used it on the last install? Do you have a back-up of any files your registry "cleaner" deleted?

Here's a tutorial that includes a way to restore your registry to pristine conditions, just click on the link : Startup Repair Infinite Loop Recovery
Thanks, all ideas appreciated. It's been over a year since the last install, so those points are long gone. Same with the registry cleaner thing, this current problem began in January .. I've just tried to live with it, but have run out of patience. Installs are hard for me, because it takes so long to reset everything like I need it to be. And not just Windows, all kinds of complex software that I need.

So it's been a long time since the last install and many good and necessary changes have been made to the registry. Would the registry restoration affect those? Or would it repair just the errors that have affected Windows? If it'll do only that, that might be great.

But as I said earlier, I run a clean machine, using RAM only, and it runs lightning fast all the time. But that is not accomplished by registry tweaks or tweak software .. simply turning off and disabling processes and services which aren't necessary .. streamlining W7, if you will.

So I'm nervous about doing any sort of broad operation to the registry. If I knew how to do a single, or several, manual registry changes that might fix the icon problem, I would certainly give that a try, as I could easily revert back if it didn't work. But I don't know which registry entry(s) might be affected.
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07 Dec 2013   #15
Callender

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 
Something to try

Hi IveyLeaguer

I've had a few icon related problems in the past (blank icons appear) and here's what seems to work for me.

When icons are displaying properly I use Nirsoft's Icons Extract to back up all icons to a folder on a non windows partition.

IconsExtract - Extract icon/cursor stored in EXE, DLL, OCX, CPL files

Security programs tend to flag up Nirsoft products though as a lot of their software could potentially be used as hacking tools so your AV might not like this software!


I believe that your problem is related to broken shortcuts and the windows maintenance troubleshooter. As a temporary fix try disabling it in Task Scheduler. Then try disabling broken shortcut link tracking in windows.


Then try installing the hotfix (choose 32bit or 64bit) and create the registry entries as mentioned by "Anon12345" near the end of this thread:

Case of the Missing Desktop Shortcut Icons | chentiangemalc

I've found that this tends to fix the problem but it's obviously not a good idea to keep the windows maintenance troubleshooter disabled on a permanent basis.

If you decide that this might be helpful I'd suggest making a system image backup before going ahead as you can then undo any changes.


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07 Dec 2013   #16
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IveyLeaguer View Post
BTW, I've tried nuking the HD and reinstalling W7. But within weeks, the same thing happens. Makes me think it could be something in the registry. I'm comfortable working in the registry but I don't go in there tweaking or fooling around. So that's not it.

I do use a registry cleaner by Iobit, which has never caused a problem. And I use Ultimate Defrag and CCleaner, all excellent software, AFAIK.
Not to point suspicious fingers at software I know nothing about and have never ever used on any of my machines ever, and have never had all but the occasional random loss of icons which can be 100% successfully restored by the "rebuild icon cache" technique I posted earlier... but perhaps these software products are related to your problem?

Have you ever tried nuking/reinstalling and NOT installing these additional Registry-related products?


One more thought about your "long filename" issue, so that you can't actually see the complete file name plus extension when you have your two side-by-side windows open simultaneously as you've shown in your screenshots...

What about reversing the two windows locations on your single monitor desktop, with the Explorer window ON THE LEFT and open in a bigger "stretched" size (but still as a window, not full-screen) so that you CAN see the complete file name if that window has the focus and is 100% visible. Then you position your WORD/browser window ON THE RIGHT side, overlaying the right part of the Explorer window. And be sure that some piece of the WORD/browser window or its title bar is still visible even when you have the Explorer window in focus, so that you can simply 1-click on the WORD window to get it back into focus when you need to work in it.

It would appear that your very long file names prevent your existing single monitor from satisfying having both windows open and fully adequately sized and visible simultaneously, which is your goal. So perhaps overlapping unequally sized windows with 1-click back-and-forth navigation is one possible alternative solution (having nothing to do with the loss of icons issue).

Also, have you ever thought about getting a second monitor, and thus extending your Windows desktop to be double-wide? Assuming your computer hardware supports this (or easily could with a simple video card upgrade if possible), I can assure you that having TWO MONITORS is a huge advantage if your work (or play) requires special situations like this where you'd really like to see two or more open windows simultaneously and in their entirety. Just a thought.
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09 Dec 2013   #17
IveyLeaguer

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 v6.1.7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Callender View Post
Hi IveyLeaguer

I've had a few icon related problems in the past (blank icons appear) and here's what seems to work for me.

When icons are displaying properly I use Nirsoft's Icons Extract to back up all icons to a folder on a non windows partition.

IconsExtract - Extract icon/cursor stored in EXE, DLL, OCX, CPL files

Security programs tend to flag up Nirsoft products though as a lot of their software could potentially be used as hacking tools so your AV might not like this software!


I believe that your problem is related to broken shortcuts and the windows maintenance troubleshooter. As a temporary fix try disabling it in Task Scheduler. Then try disabling broken shortcut link tracking in windows.


Then try installing the hotfix (choose 32bit or 64bit) and create the registry entries as mentioned by "Anon12345" near the end of this thread:

Case of the Missing Desktop Shortcut Icons | chentiangemalc

I've found that this tends to fix the problem but it's obviously not a good idea to keep the windows maintenance troubleshooter disabled on a permanent basis.

If you decide that this might be helpful I'd suggest making a system image backup before going ahead as you can then undo any changes.
Thanks. Missing shortcuts really rings a bell for some reason. I bet that's it.

So even though the only icons missing are the .htm and .mht files in the Explorer window (and those only when in normal Explorer mode, as they show normally when in 'Save' mode), and not the desktop icons and other Windows icons (as all other icons in Windows, including the desktop icons, are fine) .. you think this might be a fix?

Just checking to be sure, because if you think so, I think I'd be willing to give it a go.
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09 Dec 2013   #18
IveyLeaguer

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 v6.1.7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IveyLeaguer View Post
BTW, I've tried nuking the HD and reinstalling W7. But within weeks, the same thing happens. Makes me think it could be something in the registry. I'm comfortable working in the registry but I don't go in there tweaking or fooling around. So that's not it.

I do use a registry cleaner by Iobit, which has never caused a problem. And I use Ultimate Defrag and CCleaner, all excellent software, AFAIK.
Not to point suspicious fingers at software I know nothing about and have never ever used on any of my machines ever, and have never had all but the occasional random loss of icons which can be 100% successfully restored by the "rebuild icon cache" technique I posted earlier... but perhaps these software products are related to your problem?

Have you ever tried nuking/reinstalling and NOT installing these additional Registry-related products?


One more thought about your "long filename" issue, so that you can't actually see the complete file name plus extension when you have your two side-by-side windows open simultaneously as you've shown in your screenshots...

What about reversing the two windows locations on your single monitor desktop, with the Explorer window ON THE LEFT and open in a bigger "stretched" size (but still as a window, not full-screen) so that you CAN see the complete file name if that window has the focus and is 100% visible. Then you position your WORD/browser window ON THE RIGHT side, overlaying the right part of the Explorer window. And be sure that some piece of the WORD/browser window or its title bar is still visible even when you have the Explorer window in focus, so that you can simply 1-click on the WORD window to get it back into focus when you need to work in it.

It would appear that your very long file names prevent your existing single monitor from satisfying having both windows open and fully adequately sized and visible simultaneously, which is your goal. So perhaps overlapping unequally sized windows with 1-click back-and-forth navigation is one possible alternative solution (having nothing to do with the loss of icons issue).

Also, have you ever thought about getting a second monitor, and thus extending your Windows desktop to be double-wide? Assuming your computer hardware supports this (or easily could with a simple video card upgrade if possible), I can assure you that having TWO MONITORS is a huge advantage if your work (or play) requires special situations like this where you'd really like to see two or more open windows simultaneously and in their entirety. Just a thought.
Thanks for those ideas. I'm going to think about them soon, when I'm not so tired.
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11 Dec 2013   #19
IveyLeaguer

Windows 7 Home Premium x64 v6.1.7600
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by dsperber View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by IveyLeaguer View Post
BTW, I've tried nuking the HD and reinstalling W7. But within weeks, the same thing happens. Makes me think it could be something in the registry. I'm comfortable working in the registry but I don't go in there tweaking or fooling around. So that's not it.

I do use a registry cleaner by Iobit, which has never caused a problem. And I use Ultimate Defrag and CCleaner, all excellent software, AFAIK.
Not to point suspicious fingers at software I know nothing about and have never ever used on any of my machines ever, and have never had all but the occasional random loss of icons which can be 100% successfully restored by the "rebuild icon cache" technique I posted earlier... but perhaps these software products are related to your problem?

Have you ever tried nuking/reinstalling and NOT installing these additional Registry-related products?
There's only one registry-related product that wasn't used before this problem began. And it's not a registry cleaner, I've been using those since the '90's. It's a shortcut fixer that comes with the Iobit program.

I now suspect that's what did it. So I'll refrain from using that. Is there any way to restore the shortcuts, as just the .mht and .htm (.html) shortcuts are missing (because apparently the icons are there), without nuking?

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What about reversing the two windows locations on your single monitor desktop, with the Explorer window ON THE LEFT and open in a bigger "stretched" size (but still as a window, not full-screen) so that you CAN see the complete file name if that window has the focus and is 100% visible. Then you position your WORD/browser window ON THE RIGHT side, overlaying the right part of the Explorer window. And be sure that some piece of the WORD/browser window or its title bar is still visible even when you have the Explorer window in focus, so that you can simply 1-click on the WORD window to get it back into focus when you need to work in it.
I'm going to try that, it might just work. Thanks for the idea. The two monitor thing is out, I need everything on my laptop screen, which is 17".
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