| Windows 7: No multi physical cpu support! |
05 Oct 2009
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My system is a Asus L1N84 WS SLI FX74 This system has two physical processors on it. So its two dual cores making it 4 cores.(this is the main focus of this thread being started)
I have had this system since vista was new.
When I biult this system I ordered a copy of Vista Home Premium
When I got it up and running I noticed that when I went to system info it said I had 2 processors. Well I called Asus and AMD and Microsoft. And all of them said that the reason I was seeing two processors is because I have two processors. Me not wanting to hear it did alot of research until I found one thing that told me I was just being told what they thought would get me off the phone with them. And I am having the same issue with Windows7 RC1
What I told them is that is not a good answer because my previous system said I had 2 processors and that system was an AMD 4200 X2
So it said 2 processors and it was just ONE dual core.
Not to mention that this board got a horrible write up against Intel which caused AMD to trash the whole 4x4 idea. Bad for them because this is one hell of a system with all four cores running. Which were not running during those benchmarks against the Intel quad 6700 at the time. Remember I said I installed Vista Home premium. Well it turned out while I was searching Microsofts web site I looked at the differences between Vista Home premium and ULTIMATE. There was my answer staring me right in the face.... Ultimate was the only version that had MULTI PHYSICAL CPU SUPPORT! So I then purchased Vista Ultimate and checked the amount of processors in the system window and also In CPUZ . And there they were......4 processors... Needless to say that I quickly benchmarked it again on pcpitstop and 3dmark 06 and on pcpitstop my numbers doubled!!!
Literally DOUBLED. Because now the other processor was being utilized.
I add in here about the issue with the Intel benchmark just to say that this system is and was totally comparable to any intel system at that time and AMD scrapped it because of a faulty test!!! The sites that did their reviews were only running one of the dual cores which is why it was only slightly better then one FX 60 in there reports!! THIS is over DOUBLE and FX 60 with all 4 cores running!
Anyway... Now to the issue about Windows7 ULTIMATE........
THEY didnt put that support in Windows7 Ultimate making it no good to use with a server board!! And now I have this OS in here and am only running on 2 cores AGAIN!!! What will microsoft do to fix this issue for all the people that want to run Windows7 in their servers boards INSTEAD of the new WINDOWS SERVER 2008?
How do I get my processors to show up?? Anyone have any answers?
The Microsoft technical support told me that they cannot answer that and I would have to call technical support after I purchase Windows7 and have the issues!! WHY WOULD I WANT TO PURCHASE IT WITH THIS ISSUE !!! ANYONE?? Help please? Microsoft?
Just to clarify the post above for anyone that says it.... I have ULTIMATE . that IS the RC1. And it says 2 processors and cpuz which said 4 before I installed this NOW says 2!
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| My System Specs |
| System Manufacturer/Model Number ME OS windows7 CPU 2x FX74 Motherboard ASUS L1N64 WS SLI Memory Geil pc6400 Graphics Card Diamond Viper 2900XT Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Hanspree 25" PSU Ultra 1000 Case Junk Cooling Water and air Hard Drives 2xWD Raptor 150GB RAID0 |
05 Oct 2009
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#2 | | Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 QC, Canada |
Check this small thread : Physical Processors
Your problem could be driver related | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom build OS Windows 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 CPU Core i7 950 3.06 GHz Motherboard Gigabyte X58A-UD3R Memory Corsair XSM3 6GB 1333MHz DDR3 9-9-9-24 Graphics Card Asus nVidia GeForce GTX460 Factory Overclocked Sound Card HT-Omega Claro 7.1 Monitor(s) Displays Asus VW246H 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard Logitech K350 Mouse Logitech M510 PSU Xigmatek NRP-PC702 700W (cable hell) Case Lian-Li Lancool PC-K62 Cooling Stock fans for PC case, Cooler Master Hyper N520 for CPU Hard Drives 1x90GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD (System, internal)
1x1TB Western Digital Green (Internal)
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05 Oct 2009
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#3 | | windows 7 ultimate final Office 2007,27 Quad IMAC vm 7 64 bit Homer, Alaska |
it is simple Home premium does not support dual processors it supports a processor with 2 cores, Sory it is in the spec sheets. Ultimate supports dual prosessors and dual cores. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Me with help from a lot of news group friends OS windows 7 ultimate final Office 2007,27 Quad IMAC vm 7 64 bit CPU Dual Opteron 275 x 2 Motherboard Tyan Thunder 2885 Highpoint 1820 raidcard Memory 4 gigs reg ecc corsair Graphics Card SaphireATI 3850 agp Sound Card AMD-8111 AC'97 Audio Controller Driver Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 2333,Samsung 32 inch flat screen Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080 Keyboard logitech wireless Mouse wireless logitech track ball PSU 2 power supplies about 1750 total original 750 second 1000 Case 2 theramaltake married together Cooling air Hard Drives 5 raptor 37 gig in raid 5 off Highpoint 1820 card, 3 more for photos etc plus 300 gig 2 for storage 12 total Internet Speed 1000 down 250 up DSL, wireless net 3500 down 2000 up Other Info work in progress now running windows 7,Office 2007 using kvm switch sharing key board, trackball with xp 32 machine. xp machine is 2253 and 206 BW, Sat TV on 206 . add quad core 27 inch IMAC. w fusion 3 win 7 ultimate 64 as guest |
05 Oct 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by abeeftec Anyway... Now to the issue about Windows7 ULTIMATE........
THEY didnt put that support in Windows7 Ultimate making it no good to use with a server board!! And now I have this OS in here and am only running on 2 cores AGAIN!!! What will microsoft do to fix this issue for all the people that want to run Windows7 in their servers boards INSTEAD of the new WINDOWS SERVER 2008? Upper-end Windows client builds have always supported 2 physical processors. A cursory web search shows that Windows 7 should be no different - up to 2 physical processor packages with Home Premium and Ultimate.
You might want to check whether your machine is artificially hobbling itself. Run MSCONFIG, "Boot" tab, "Advanced options...".
Beyond that, I don't really know why you'd bother with a "server board", unless somebody gave it to you as a present and you've got no need for a server. There's this whole mythology around "server" components, and how they're somehow magically l33ter, but that's simply not always the case. Servers are optimised for quickly switching between many tasks corresponding to multiple client requestors, and not for dispatching a single user's requests as quickly as possible. That's why Windows Server 2008 will be a slower desktop workstation than Windows 7, even with a few tweaks applied to make it favour desktop responsiveness over serving ability.
As far as dual-proc boards are concerned, it's an utter waste of money (for a workstation) in this day and age. You pay a premium for something which is only a little faster overall than a quad-core (less bus contention). That money would have yielded far more performance had it been invested into more RAM or a faster multi-core processor. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Multiple machines in various stages of decomposition. OS Win7x64 |
05 Oct 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by H2SO4 
Quote: Originally Posted by abeeftec Anyway... Now to the issue about Windows7 ULTIMATE........
THEY didnt put that support in Windows7 Ultimate making it no good to use with a server board!! And now I have this OS in here and am only running on 2 cores AGAIN!!! What will microsoft do to fix this issue for all the people that want to run Windows7 in their servers boards INSTEAD of the new WINDOWS SERVER 2008? Upper-end Windows client builds have always supported 2 physical processors. A cursory web search shows that Windows 7 should be no different - up to 2 physical processor packages with Home Premium and Ultimate.
You might want to check whether your machine is artificially hobbling itself. Run MSCONFIG, "Boot" tab, "Advanced options...".
Beyond that, I don't really know why you'd bother with a "server board", unless somebody gave it to you as a present and you've got no need for a server. There's this whole mythology around "server" components, and how they're somehow magically l33ter, but that's simply not always the case. Servers are optimised for quickly switching between many tasks corresponding to multiple client requestors, and not for dispatching a single user's requests as quickly as possible. That's why Windows Server 2008 will be a slower desktop workstation than Windows 7, even with a few tweaks applied to make it favour desktop responsiveness over serving ability.
As far as dual-proc boards are concerned, it's an utter waste of money (for a workstation) in this day and age. You pay a premium for something which is only a little faster overall than a quad-core (less bus contention). That money would have yielded far more performance had it been invested into more RAM or a faster multi-core processor.
Sorry but thats just not true with this board.. I score 7.1 on performance with this processor... and someone missed my point.. If it supported 2 physical processors then it would say I HAVE 4!! And it says I have 2!! which is like having a dual core! That means only one of my dual cores are being utilized.....
and this board was NOT made for WS even though it is called that. It was made as a system soon to be able to have 2 quad cores for a total of 8 cores when Intel only offered 4. It is totally redesigned to be a gaming rig. This board is an awsome board and it is comparable in real time situations in gaming to my qx9650 system. But the qx9650 beats it bad on benchmarks. nevertheless it was only a waste of money at this point because the people that did the comparisons caused AMD to scrap the whole idea. I own both systems so I know what it is capable of and what numbers it puts out.. it scores over 15,450 3dmark06 and my qx9650 system scores 19,670 and that is with a 3.9 overclock!! the AMD FX system is with a two stock 3.0 dual cores!
THE BOTTOM LINE..... IF THIS 2 PHYSICAL PROCESSOR SYSTEM WAS SUPPORTED IN WINDOWS7 IT WOULD BE SHOWING 4 PROCESSORS IN CPUZ AND in the WINDOWS SYSTEM SPECS and it does not.. therefore there is somethign wrong.. and when I reinstall VISTA ultimate it does register 4 PROCESSORS!(also proves there is nothing wrong with the system to show 2 cores in 7ultimate) and I am not confusing cores with processors.. If you guys are not reading the post then I see why you are saying things that are directly dealth with in the post! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ME OS windows7 CPU 2x FX74 Motherboard ASUS L1N64 WS SLI Memory Geil pc6400 Graphics Card Diamond Viper 2900XT Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Hanspree 25" PSU Ultra 1000 Case Junk Cooling Water and air Hard Drives 2xWD Raptor 150GB RAID0 |
05 Oct 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by Lebon14 Check this small thread : Physical Processors
Your problem could be driver related
You may be right.. thanks alot!
I will look into that and get back.
thanks! | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number ME OS windows7 CPU 2x FX74 Motherboard ASUS L1N64 WS SLI Memory Geil pc6400 Graphics Card Diamond Viper 2900XT Sound Card Integrated Monitor(s) Displays Hanspree 25" PSU Ultra 1000 Case Junk Cooling Water and air Hard Drives 2xWD Raptor 150GB RAID0 |
05 Oct 2009
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Quote: Originally Posted by abeeftec It is totally redesigned to be a gaming rig. This board is an awsome board and it is comparable in real time situations in gaming to my qx9650 system. Actually, games are not yet particularly good at spawning multiple number-crunching threads. Some big tasks are easier to break up into little chunks than others. A lot of fundamental computer science research goes into that area.
Anyway, is there any chance we could do this with less emotion? I didn't insult your beloved board - I'm sure it's great. My point was that there are cheaper ways of improving desktop performance. 
Quote: Originally Posted by abeeftec THE BOTTOM LINE..... IF THIS 2 PHYSICAL PROCESSOR SYSTEM WAS SUPPORTED IN WINDOWS7 IT WOULD BE SHOWING 4 PROCESSORS IN CPUZ AND in the WINDOWS SYSTEM SPECS and it does not.. therefore there is somethign wrong.. and when I reinstall VISTA ultimate it does register 4 PROCESSORS!(also proves there is nothing wrong with the system to show 2 cores in 7ultimate) and I am not confusing cores with processors.. It does seem as if something is wrong. However, it may be localised to your installation and not a general limitation of Win 7. Anecdotal web evidence suggests that Windows 7 Ultimate, like Vista premium, XP Pro, Win2k Pro, and NT4 workstation before it, all support 2 physical processor packages.
Did you actually check what MSCONFIG says on your machine? Is the number of processors being artificially limited? 
Quote: Originally Posted by abeeftec If you guys are not reading the post then I see why you are saying things that are directly dealth with in the post! I did read your post. It's what made me suggest you check MSCONFIG, for starters. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Multiple machines in various stages of decomposition. OS Win7x64 |
05 Oct 2009
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#8 | | Windows 7 RTM Ultimate - Activated (Technet) Sydney |
I think you will find that Home Premium only supports ONE Physical Processor as shown in the shot below (from Windows 7 editions - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )
Microsoft would not expect users of Home Premium to be using Server type Motherboards and those that do can use Professional, Enterprise or Ultimate depending on their needs.
You will also notice that Home Premium also only supports up to 16gb Ram where the higher spec builds support up to 192 gb.
I suggest you might want to look at an Anytime Upgrade to Professional as the minimum spec to use both Processors. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Build OS Windows 7 RTM Ultimate - Activated (Technet) CPU Athlon 4800+ Motherboard Gigabyte M56S-S3 Memory 2 gig Graphics Card ATI Radeon 2400+ Sound Card On board Monitor(s) Displays Samsung 22" LCD Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech MX5000 BT Mouse Logitech MX 5000 BT PSU 550 w Case Antec LS100 Hard Drives WD 250 gig Sata Internet Speed ADSL 2+ |
05 Oct 2009
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You responded to my post, so perhaps the comment is aimed at me?
Yes, you're quite right (according to that table), Home Premium is limited to one processor package. I got that wrong in my initial post.
However, the OP is now having trouble getting a Windows 7 Ultimate box to register the second processor package, if I understand correctly. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Multiple machines in various stages of decomposition. OS Win7x64 |
05 Oct 2009
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I suppose Paul Thurrott could have gotten it wrong but in his table, Home Premium is listed for 2 Physical Processors. http://www.winsupersite.com/win7/win...sp#performance | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Alienware Aurora ALX R4 OS Windows 7 x64 (SP1) CPU Intel Core i7-3930K (3.2GHz, Turbo 4GHz) Motherboard Alienware Aurora-R4 x79 Memory 4x Samsung 4GB PC3-12800 DDR3 (16GB 1600MHz) Graphics Card Nvidia Geforce GTX 690 (Stock) Sound Card RealTek Integrated Audio Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp U3011 Screen Resolution 2560x1600 Other Info Dell Inspiron Mini 10v (Intel Atom N270 1.6 GHz; 1GB; Windows 7 Ultimate) No multi physical cpu support! problems? All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:42 PM. | |