| Windows 7: HD And Memory Sticks; Life Of ? |
31 Jan 2013
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HD And Memory Sticks; Life Of ? Hi,
My experience with Hard Drives from Seagate and WD are that they last about 3 years or so.
Possibly an even shorter time.
This seems to be true irrespective of whether that are running continuously, or just plugged in for the occasional backup (like for an external HD).
What's you experience ?
Anyway, do these USB Memory Sticks like from Sandisk "tend to" last longer ?
Or,...?
Thanks,
Bob | My System Specs |
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31 Jan 2013
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#2 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |
I won't buy anything from Sandisk after they weaseled out of the warranty for a failed camera card. | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
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31 Jan 2013
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#3 | | windows 7 home 64bit Belfast Ireland |
I have had many hds over the years all makes and lucky to say none has failed they just got to small. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number W530-3630QM1 OS windows 7 home 64bit CPU INTEL-CORE I7 Memory 16GB Hard Drives 750GB Browser Chrome |
31 Jan 2013
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#4 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Cornwall UK |

Quote: Originally Posted by maxie I have had many hds over the years all makes and lucky to say none has failed they just got to small. Me too! I run a small local Computer Club that has been going now for just over 8 years and I can't remeber one member who has had a HD failure! Perhaps we have been lucky | My System Specs | | OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8H77-M Memory 8.00 GB Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" Hard Drives (1) INTEL SSDSC2CT180A3 ATA Device (2) ST500DM002-1BD142 ATA Device (3) WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0 ATA Device (4) Generic- Compact Flash USB Device (5) Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device (6) Generic- SD/MMC USB Device (7) Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Internet Speed 20Mb |
31 Jan 2013
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#5 | | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 Philadelphia, PA |
Three years is very short, especially if you have been seeing it consistenly. That makes me think you aren't properly cooling or handling your drives. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1 CPU Intel Core i7-2600 Motherboard Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD3P-B3 Memory 12 GB Patriot Extreme DDR3-1333 Graphics Card Nvidia GTX 470 Monitor(s) Displays Dell UltraSharp 2209WA PSU OCZ ModStream 700W Case CoolerMaster HAF 912 Advanced Cooling CoolerMaster Hyper 212 Plus Hard Drives OCZ Agility3 240 GB, WD5001AALS, WD7501AALS |
31 Jan 2013
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#6 | | Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 Cornwall UK |
So far as quote: Anyway, do these USB Memory Sticks like from Sandisk "tend to" last longer? I have always regarded USB memory sticks as a temporary device to hold info for onward transfer. I would never use them for a "permanent" storage medium. A "proper" HD eems much more reliable, preferably an internal HD. Even better an SSD!(says he 'cos he has just got a new rig with an SSD)  | My System Specs | | OS Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1 CPU Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-3770 CPU @ 3.40GHz Motherboard ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. P8H77-M Memory 8.00 GB Graphics Card Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 Sound Card On Board Monitor(s) Displays Dell 24" Hard Drives (1) INTEL SSDSC2CT180A3 ATA Device (2) ST500DM002-1BD142 ATA Device (3) WDC WD3200AAKS-75L9A0 ATA Device (4) Generic- Compact Flash USB Device (5) Generic- MS/MS-Pro USB Device (6) Generic- SD/MMC USB Device (7) Generic- SM/xD-Picture USB Internet Speed 20Mb |
31 Jan 2013
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#7 | | Windows 7 professional 64 |
USB memory sticks, SD memory cards, MicroSD memory cards do not have the long life that true hardisk/SSD drives do. They are designed to be cheap and portable. When they fail they usually give no warning signs. They are never to be trusted with important data you have as your only copy. | My System Specs | | OS Windows 7 professional 64 |
31 Jan 2013
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#8 | | Win 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Win 7 Pro (32-bit) N. Calif |
Hdds are mechanical, it's not a question of IF they will fail but WHEN.
That said, I have a few hdds that are 25+ years old that are still functional but I've also had hdds fail within 6 months.
It is my experience that the newer hdds seem to be pretty reliable, I can't remember when the last time was that I had an hdd fail in a desktop. I have a couple of IBM servers I use for my work that have been continuously running since 2003 that have never had the hdds ever even hiccup.
The last hdd I had fail was in a laptop about 10 years ago. Laptops are subjected to a lot more thumps and bumps so that makes sense.
I agree with DeaconFrost that 3 years seems a little on the low side, you may need to look into why they are failing that quickly.
As far as flash drives, I've had pretty good luck with them, have never had one fail, I'm more likely to lose them than have one fail. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number Home Built, Dell Inspiron 1520 Laptop OS Win 7 Ultimate (64-bit), Win 7 Pro (32-bit) CPU 3.4Ghz 3770K i7, 2.4Ghz Core 2 Duo Motherboard Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H, Dell Memory 8G, 3G Graphics Card ATI Radeon HD 5770, Mobile Intel 965 Sound Card High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo) Monitor(s) Displays Dell 2409W 24" Screen Resolution 1920x1080 Keyboard IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986 Mouse Microsoft PSU Antec Case Antec 100 Cooling CM 212+ Hard Drives 128G SSD OS; 1.5T & 2T Data on Desktop, 320G for laptop Internet Speed 1.5M down 1.2M up :-( Other Info Also have an Acer Aspire netbook, a home-built AMD Dual core (Minecraft server) and home-built Pent 4 all running Win 7. Also have various machines running XP, Win Server 2K, Win Server 2003, Linux and DOS. I think I have a problem... |
31 Jan 2013
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#9 | | Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit At home. |

Quote: Originally Posted by strollin Hdds are mechanical, it's not a question of IF they will fail but WHEN... Very true. And no matter what media is used to put data on, multiple backups are vital to ensure against the loss of that data. A bare minimum would be two backups, on on-site and one off-site. 
Quote: Originally Posted by strollin ...I have a few hdds that are 25+ years old that are still functional but I've also had hdds fail within 6 months... I had a Maxtor in my first desktop that lasted seven years, most of that being 24/7 usage. I had two Seagates fail, one after a year of use, the other one after a month. One WD failed after a year. All were desktop drives. I've had three netbook drives outlive the netbooks they were in (I still have the drives). 
Quote: Originally Posted by strollin ...As far as flash drives, I've had pretty good luck with them, have never had one fail, I'm more likely to lose them than have one fail. I've also had good luck with flash drives with only one ever having failed: a 16 GB SanDisk SD card that failed three years into a five year warranty that Sandisk worked hard to find a lame loophole to use to weasel out of honoring the warranty (there is NO way I'll ever buy a SanDisk product again). | My System Specs | | Computer type PC/Desktop System Manufacturer/Model Number Custom Build OS Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit CPU Intel i7-3930K Motherboard ASUS P9X79 WS Memory Kingston HyperX Genesis 32GB Kit (8x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR Graphics Card MSI R7850 Twin Frozr 2GD5/OC Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR Sound Card On board Realtek HD Monitor(s) Displays HP w2207h Screen Resolution 1680 x 1050 Keyboard Logitech G110 Mouse Logitech M525 (two in use) PSU Corsair HX750w Case Antec Two Hundred v2 Cooling Cooler Master GeminII S524 120mm (fan replaced with a 140mm) Hard Drives Samsun 128GB 840 Pro
Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB
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01 Feb 2013
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Quote: Originally Posted by Robert11 My experience with Hard Drives from Seagate and WD are that they last about 3 years or so. Possibly an even shorter time. I have about 15 drives in service here--both IDE and SATA, some as old as 10 years--all but two external and hot-swappable that are used for backups. In the past 15 years I've had maybe 5-6 HDD's fail, four of them expensive RE2 and RE4 WD enterprise drives that you would expect to be more durable, while the cheaper drives seem to do better. My oldest drive has a date of 2003 on the label and until recently has been in my clone mix, which is a bunch of external drives that I rotate to clone my C: drive once per week. Since building a new desktop I'm now only using five SATA's for this purpose and the six IDE's are currently not in service. I'll find something to do with them, though. Quote: This seems to be true irrespective of whether that are running continuously, or just plugged in for the occasional backup (like for an external HD). I find that drive life is not something you can predict, either by brand or price range, as a drive may be DOA when new or last for years. The average return rates of HDD models vary, a case in point being the aforementioned WD RE4, which has a worse-than-average rate. Oddly, it's one of the most expensive drives you can buy, designed for 24/7 server duty. That said, I have one still running in my new desktop build, but like everything its contents are backed up in multiples.
As for drive durability being related to the type of duty, i.e. turned off and on routinely or run 24/7, I haven't seen any evidence that one procedure results in longer life than the other. I turn my computers off every night and usually run them all day once booted first thing in the AM, but a friend keeps his runing 24/7. Our HDD failure experience has been about the same over the last 25 years. Quote: Anyway, do these USB Memory Sticks like from Sandisk "tend to" last longer ? I have a few thumb drives here, one Verbatim 256mb stick that's probably 5-6 years old, and all work fine. I have used compactflash cards in cameras professionally since moving to digital photography in 2000 and have never had one fail, even the cheap ones, and consequently have no experience as to one brand being more reliable than another. Some of my friends are loyal to one brand, usually one of the more expensive alternatives like Lexar, and they too have had no trouble AFAIK. | My System Specs | | System Manufacturer/Model Number n/a (homemade) OS Win7 x64 CPU Intel 3770K Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H Memory DDR3 16gb @ 1600 Graphics Card Intel HD-4000 (on board) Sound Card Realtek (on board) Monitor(s) Displays Dell U2412M and Dell 2007FP Keyboard Northgate Omni Key Ultra (legacy) Mouse MS Trackball Optical PSU Antec 650W EA-650 Case Coolermaster HAF X Cooling Zalman HSF Hard Drives Crucial M4 128gb SSD
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