A New (*upgrade) System Build, Components and Case Questions

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  1. Posts : 24,479
    Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
       #11

    YoYo155 said:
    Britton30 said:
    With that high end board I would use 2133 RAM. Some i5s won't run RAM faster than that, but you could try 2400.
    For a Case, the HAF-X is a nice roomy case with good cable management.
    Does really make much of a difference?

    I've also looked into the i7 3770K and it to supports DIMM's as fast as 1600MHz as well, the one i've found that supports 2133+ is an 2011 socket 2nd Gen i7.
    The figures you're seeing is what the board would set your RAM to automatically if you make no adjustments. Intel boards have a XMP profile if enabled will adjust the RAM to its specs.

    The 3770K may even run RAM as high as 2800. It's the strength of the CPU's memory controller that determines that.
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  2. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #12

    Can you get away with the power supply you chose. YES
    It's a hard choice between the HAF-X and the 800d.
    Their are thousands of choices for computer towers. Spend some time doing your home work and the good results will float to the top.
    My method for shopping.
    1. Start with tower.
    2. Search many many brands
    3. Every one you think you might want do a print out and save.
    4. Then go through the print outs and make little notes of the plus and minus. Make note of size, weight, wire harness routing, cooling it has now and possible upgrading for the future. Also take note of the access to the back of the cpu for cooler insulation.
    5. Then decide and go to the power supply and do the same thing and so on down the line.
    It will take some time but it can be quiet enjoyable learning of all the new things on the market. We can make suggestions until the cows come home but the real homework and decisions are yours.
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  3. Posts : 89
    Windows 7 x64 Home Premium
       #13

    I always overrate the PSU and the rams. If your system draw 450 watts then get a 600-700 watt PSU. If you run your mems at 1333 then get 1600s. Gives you room for upgrades. Even if you don't upgrade at least they're stout.
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  4. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #14

    I buy power supplies not only to meet my need but also to exceed my needs. Reasons.
    1. Give my room to grow my computer later down the road.
    2. A power supply that doesn't have to work hard runs cooler, quieter and longer.
    3. A power supply that doesn't have to work to hard put out a more smother and constant supply of amps and volts.
    4. Their isn't much of a cost difference when you buy the right one first.
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    Britton is correct you can set your ram to various specs like I did mine.
    My post was just to show you what the manufactures of your cpu and motherboard recommend. NOT to tell you what you must use. This is the specs of my cup and I have my 2000 ram at 1700.
    Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
    24 GBMemory Types
    DDR3-800/1066# of Memory Channels
    3Max Memory Bandwidth
    25.6 GB/sPhysical Address Extensions
    36-bit
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  5. Posts : 1,476
       #15

    Why replace the GS600 if you already own it?
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  6. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #16

    Check this puppy out. The Spider by Lian Li


    http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...9QEwAg&dur=592
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  7. Posts : 2,606
    Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
       #17

    What are your intended uses for the PC?

    The GTX460 seems like a relatively feeble component compared to the rest of the system. I'd suggest a GTX680 or Radeon HD 7970.

    As for RAM, I never rely on the XMP settings. I set the frequency and timings manually in the BIOS (UEFI, more recently) to the manufacturer's specs. That may be necessary to get stable operation with 4 DIMMs. (Or not.)

    If you wish to play it safe, use RAM from the Asus QVL (qualified vendors list). You will find a limited selection of kits based on 8GB DIMMS, but I spotted at least one (Corsair, in the DDR3 1866 page).

    ASUS - - ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
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  8. Posts : 3,056
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #18

    Layback Bear said:
    Can you get away with the power supply you chose. YES
    It's a hard choice between the HAF-X and the 800d.
    Their are thousands of choices for computer towers. Spend some time doing your home work and the good results will float to the top.
    My method for shopping.
    1. Start with tower.
    2. Search many many brands
    3. Every one you think you might want do a print out and save.
    4. Then go through the print outs and make little notes of the plus and minus. Make note of size, weight, wire harness routing, cooling it has now and possible upgrading for the future. Also take note of the access to the back of the cpu for cooler insulation.
    5. Then decide and go to the power supply and do the same thing and so on down the line.
    It will take some time but it can be quiet enjoyable learning of all the new things on the market. We can make suggestions until the cows come home but the real homework and decisions are yours.
    Thank you for breaking down how you would decide what to buy
    it makes sense to do it that way, pros vs cons.


    TwoCables said:
    Why replace the GS600 if you already own it?
    I'm reluctant to do so, I will only if I find it's too marginal.

    bobkn said:
    What are your intended uses for the PC?

    The GTX460 seems like a relatively feeble component compared to the rest of the system. I'd suggest a GTX680 or Radeon HD 7970.

    As for RAM, I never rely on the XMP settings. I set the frequency and timings manually in the BIOS (UEFI, more recently) to the manufacturer's specs. That may be necessary to get stable operation with 4 DIMMs. (Or not.)

    If you wish to play it safe, use RAM from the Asus QVL (qualified vendors list). You will find a limited selection of kits based on 8GB DIMMS, but I spotted at least one (Corsair, in the DDR3 1866 page).

    ASUS - - ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77
    I intend to use it for some not so heavy gaming as well as 3D work and stills/video editing.

    I already Own the GTX460 that's why it's on the list.
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  9. Posts : 25,847
    Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
       #19

    You are welcome YoYo155. As you have found out to choose the proper hardware is like work and fun at the same time. Take your time going through many reviews and specs. I enjoyed looking through all the Towers (cases) that are available before I made my choice.
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  10. Posts : 3,056
    Windows 10
    Thread Starter
       #20

    I made some (which I think are the final decisions) changes from my original post.

    For the CPU I've upgraded to: Intel Core i7 3770K 3.5Ghz.
    The Motherboard will be: Asus P8Z77-V PRO.
    The system Memory I've dialed down to:
    Corsair 4x4GB DDR3 1600Mhz Vengeance Dual Channel CL9-9-9-24.

    I've also decided to stick with my GTX460 as well as my GS600.


    What what are your thoughts?

    Edit:
    Where can I see a specification on a case that it can support the H100i?

    Corsair:
    "
    Hydro Series H100i requires a case with dual 120mm fan mounts
    with 15mm spacing for a 240mm radiator"

    Edit v2:

    I think I've found a case.
    What do you guys think about the Antec P280?
    Last edited by YoYo155; 01 Feb 2013 at 23:11.
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