A New (*upgrade) System Build, Components and Case Questions

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  1. Posts : 1,476
       #31

    Fair enough.

    YoYo155: what video card or cards do you plan on having?
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       #32

    Your question on phases, Well the more phases give better voltage control and a cleaner volts, (less ripples). I took that into account when I chose my board.
    Looking at Asus boards for my use would be the P8Z77-V Deluxe.
    The Pro has many things I would not use and don't want to pay for.
    The Pro board means that, Pro. For a new person to O/C it would be a mess.
    The reason I chose my motherboard the P6X58D-E over the P6X58D pro was value and the P6X58D had things I didn't need or want, and wasn't going to pay for. You have to make that choice yourself.
    The Pro board I call a tinkers board. Those that constantly tinker with the O/C just because that is their thing. They will post their results on some O/C Forum and go back to changing things again getting ready for their next post. The Deluxe board is for those that want to O/C and get the best O/C and still be reliable and then leave it alone. Don't get the impression that their isn't a gazillion of things you can't set/change with the Deluxe board. There are more that can be changed than most people will ever use or know how to use. Every system O/C different. I don't see any reason why both boards wouldn't do a 4.2 to 4.5. Your choice of CPU is 77W so I don't think their will be a temp problem with the H100i. One never knows until they try.

    I would not choose the C70. To many reason to list. I recommend choosing a case that is bigger than you need. They make it easier to work inside and you can add things later down the road. Give us a price range for towers. That will help lower the search. I don't know how one would break the leg off a computer tower of any of the major brands. Then again their people that can break a pet rock.

    Seasonic is a excellent choice in power supplies. A 1000W is a bit high but you should get reliable use for many years no mater what you through at it.
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  3. Posts : 3,056
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       #33

    TwoCables said:
    Fair enough.

    YoYo155: what video card or cards do you plan on having?
    It's a tough decision I would like to get a GTX680 from Asus but on the other hand I can live
    with my GTX460, what it comes down to is that the 680 is expensive.

    Layback Bear said:
    Your question on phases, Well the more phases give better voltage control and a cleaner volts, (less ripples). I took that into account when I chose my board.
    Looking at Asus boards for my use would be the P8Z77-V Deluxe.
    The Pro has many things I would not use and don't want to pay for.
    The Pro board means that, Pro. For a new person to O/C it would be a mess.
    The reason I chose my motherboard the P6X58D-E over the P6X58D pro was value and the P6X58D had things I didn't need or want, and wasn't going to pay for. You have to make that choice yourself.
    The Pro board I call a tinkers board. Those that constantly tinker with the O/C just because that is their thing. They will post their results on some O/C Forum and go back to changing things again getting ready for their next post. The Deluxe board is for those that want to O/C and get the best O/C and still be reliable and then leave it alone. Don't get the impression that their isn't a gazillion of things you can't set/change with the Deluxe board. There are more that can be changed than most people will ever use or know how to use. Every system O/C different. I don't see any reason why both boards wouldn't do a 4.2 to 4.5. Your choice of CPU is 77W so I don't think their will be a temp problem with the H100i. One never knows until they try.

    I would not choose the C70. To many reason to list. I recommend choosing a case that is bigger than you need. They make it easier to work inside and you can add things later down the road. Give us a price range for towers. That will help lower the search. I don't know how one would break the leg off a computer tower of any of the major brands. Then again their people that can break a pet rock.

    Seasonic is a excellent choice in power supplies. A 1000W is a bit high but you should get reliable use for many years no mater what you through at it.
    The price range I'm willing to get a case for is 150$-160$ max.
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  4. Posts : 3,056
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       #34

    My current case dilemmas are:

    Corsair Vengeance C70
    Fractal Design Define R4
    Antec P280

    a penny for your thoughts?


    BTW, I'm also looking into good ol' air cooling.
    Any good suggestions for a heat-sink to replace the H100i?
    I'm currently interested in the Noctua NH-D14.

    And will I be able to OC it to very much the same extent?
    Last edited by YoYo155; 03 Feb 2013 at 17:58.
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  5. Posts : 25,847
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       #35

    The cases you have posted I still like the P280. Take a look at the Corsair 600t. It is a tight fit for a H100I but a H80I works with ease. Noctua makes nothing but quality. (Look at my Specs) The Noctua NH-D14 is big and bulky like most quality air coolers. The NH-D14 is a great air cooler. It might inter fear with things on the motherboard such as ram ect. You wouldn't know unless you try or find a video where someone has already done a installation with similar hardware that you will be using.
    The fan controller on the T600 is useless. Many have installed a H100 in the 660T but it's very tight. You will not be able to have push/pull fans on the 600T with the H100. Not enough room. You could use push/pull with a H80.

    http://youtu.be/kLCwBkf4o94

    Another good choice in my opinion for about $50.00 more.

    http://youtu.be/jLFbjR97moM
    Last edited by Layback Bear; 03 Feb 2013 at 23:18.
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       #36

    YoYo155 said:
    TwoCables said:
    Fair enough.

    YoYo155: what video card or cards do you plan on having?
    It's a tough decision I would like to get a GTX680 from Asus but on the other hand I can live
    with my GTX460, what it comes down to is that the 680 is expensive.
    What I'm really wondering is, why did you go with the 1000W power supply? You could be spending a whole lot less by keeping the GS600. I see no reason to replace it.
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  7. Posts : 3,056
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       #37

    Layback Bear said:
    The cases you have posted I still like the P280. Take a look at the Corsair 600t. It is a tight fit for a H100I but a H80I works with ease. Noctua makes nothing but quality. (Look at my Specs) The Noctua NH-D14 is big and bulky like most quality air coolers. The NH-D14 is a great air cooler. It might inter fear with things on the motherboard such as ram ect. You wouldn't know unless you try or find a video where someone has already done a installation with similar hardware that you will be using.
    The fan controller on the T600 is useless. Many have installed a H100 in the 660T but it's very tight. You will not be able to have push/pull fans on the 600T with the H100. Not enough room. You could use push/pull with a H80.

    Corsair Graphite 600T Video Review - YouTube

    Another good choice in my opinion for about $50.00 more.

    Cooler Master HAF-X Video Review - YouTube
    Too much to choose from

    TwoCables said:
    YoYo155 said:
    TwoCables said:
    Fair enough.

    YoYo155: what video card or cards do you plan on having?
    It's a tough decision I would like to get a GTX680 from Asus but on the other hand I can live
    with my GTX460, what it comes down to is that the 680 is expensive.
    What I'm really wondering is, why did you go with the 1000W power supply? You could be spending a whole lot less by keeping the GS600. I see no reason to replace it.
    What it really comes down to is I have it for almost two years now and I know the efficiency degrades over time, with that in mind I don't want to harm a component unintentionally which will then may cost even more.

    Is my logic correct on this one?
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  8. Posts : 3,056
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       #38

    Update No. 4 (I believe, I've lost count )

    Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4Ghz
    ‏Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler‎
    ‏Asus P8Z77-V PRO
    ‏G.Skill 2x8GB Ripjaws-X DDR3 1600Mhz PC3-12800 Kit CL9-9-9
    ‏SeaSonic 1000W Platinum-Series Active PFC 12cm Fan Modular Platinum-1000 (Retail)‎‏
    Fractal Design Define R4
    Dell UltraSharp U2412M 24'' Monitor With LED IPS‎
    Going to add to the R4 two Zalman ZM-F3 120mm, at the top and one on the side.
    Last edited by YoYo155; 04 Feb 2013 at 15:10.
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  9. Posts : 2,606
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       #39

    The Noctua NH-D14 is good. I have one. I'm a little disappointed that they don't offer a variant with the same PWM fans used in the NH-D14 SE2011 (strictly for Socket 2011). A competitor that has PWM fans by default is:

    Newegg.com - Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm UFB (Updraft Floating Balance) CPU Cooler

    (Phanteks PH-TC14PE) I've seen reviews that put its performance as slightly better than the NH-D14.

    I'm not sure which would be better for clearing RAM. I have no interference with the NH-D14 and my Gskilll F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH RAM kit, but the NH-D14 would have to be removed to access the RAM.
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  10. Posts : 3,056
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       #40

    bobkn said:
    The Noctua NH-D14 is good. I have one. I'm a little disappointed that they don't offer a variant with the same PWM fans used in the NH-D14 SE2011 (strictly for Socket 2011). A competitor that has PWM fans by default is:

    Newegg.com - Phanteks PH-TC14PE 140mm UFB (Updraft Floating Balance) CPU Cooler

    (Phanteks PH-TC14PE) I've seen reviews that put its performance as slightly better than the NH-D14.

    I'm not sure which would be better for clearing RAM. I have no interference with the NH-D14 and my Gskilll F3-17000CL9Q-16GBZH RAM kit, but the NH-D14 would have to be removed to access the RAM.
    What is PWM fan good for / better at than a non PWM fan?

    Is the RAM under the fan or the tower?
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