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Windows 7: A New (*upgrade) System Build, Components and Case Questions


31 Jan 2013   #1

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 
A New (*upgrade) System Build, Components and Case Questions

Hello world,
I'm looking to considerably upgrade my current system, which will become essentially a new system overall.

I was looking into something along these lines:

[Key: Currently Own | Looking To Buy]
Motherboard- Asus Sabertooth Z77.
CPU- Intel Core i5 3570K 3.4Ghz s1155 6MB.
Cooling- Corsair Hydro H100i.
RAM
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Kingston HyperX Beast 2x8GB DDR3 1600MHz (x2= a total of 32GB).
GPU- GeForce GTX 460 (768MB).
PSU- Corsair GS600 80PLUS. (is it enough?)
HDD/SSD- *.*
Monitor- *.*
Peripherals- *.*

Case-
Open for suggestions!

The rest is less of an issue.

What do you guys think?


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31 Jan 2013   #2

 

The PSU is definitely enough. You could even have two GTX 670s with this PSU.

32 GB would be about 28 GB more than I would ever need, but hey.
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31 Jan 2013   #3
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

With that high end board I would use 2133 RAM. Some i5s won't run RAM faster than that, but you could try 2400.
For a Case, the HAF-X is a nice roomy case with good cable management.
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31 Jan 2013   #4

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Britton30 View Post
With that high end board I would use 2133 RAM. Some i5s won't run RAM faster than that, but you could try 2400.
For a Case, the HAF-X is a nice roomy case with good cable management.
Does really make much of a difference?

I've also looked into the i7 3770K and it to supports DIMM's as fast as 1600MHz as well, the one i've found that supports 2133+ is an 2011 socket 2nd Gen i7.
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31 Jan 2013   #5

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

>This might help.<
ASUS - - ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77


4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 1866/1600/1333 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)
* Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs.
* Refer to www.asus.com or user manual for the Memory QVL (Qualified Vendors Lists).
------------------------
ARK | Intel® Core

Memory SpecificationsMax Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
32 GBMemory Types
DDR3-1333/1600# of Memory Channels
2Max Memory Bandwidth
25.6 GB/sECC Memory Supported

No
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31 Jan 2013   #6

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

The HAF-X is a great choice but another one to look at.
Obsidian Series® 800D Full-Tower Case - Obsidian Series - Cases

I would go for a Gold or Platinum certified power supply and modular.
they are a little more money but a lot more power supply.
Some to look at.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...FQf0nAode0gA2g

http://www.corsair.com/en/power-supp...ply-units.html

http://www.seasonicusa.com/Platinum_Series_XP2.htm

Quality power supplies and towers are the roots of a quality computer tree.


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31 Jan 2013   #7

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
>This might help.<
ASUS - - ASUS SABERTOOTH Z77


4 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR3 1866/1600/1333 MHz Non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory
Dual Channel Memory Architecture
Supports Intel® Extreme Memory Profile (XMP)
* Hyper DIMM support is subject to the physical characteristics of individual CPUs.
* Refer to www.asus.com or user manual for the Memory QVL (Qualified Vendors Lists).
------------------------
ARK | Intel® Core

Memory SpecificationsMax Memory Size (dependent on memory type)
32 GBMemory Types
DDR3-1333/1600# of Memory Channels
2Max Memory Bandwidth
25.6 GB/sECC Memory Supported

No
But is investing in a MB/CPU that supports up to 1600MHz nowadays worthwhile?
I mean won't it get old fast with all the latest already present higher frequencies?
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31 Jan 2013   #8

Windows 7 Home Premium x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Layback Bear View Post
The HAF-X is a great choice but another one to look at.
Obsidian Series® 800D Full-Tower Case - Obsidian Series - Cases

I would go for a Gold or Platinum certified power supply and modular.
they are a little more money but a lot more power supply.
Some to look at.
Newegg.com - CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX750 &#40;CMPSU-750AX&#41; 750W ATX12V v2.31 &#47; EPS12V v2.92 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

Corsair AX Series Power Supply Units

Welcome to Seasonic USA

Quality power supplies and towers are the roots of a quality computer tree.


I actually looked at the 800D, it looks to be the one I might choose eventually.

Hmm my GS600 is relatively new, do you think I can't get away with it?
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31 Jan 2013   #9

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Those are the specs from the choices you made in your first post.
The specs for the motherboard you chose.
The spec for the cpu you chose.
Those specs just show what the manufacture of your motherboard and cup recommend.
I have cheated my system specs with faster ram but I have my 2000 ram at 1700. You gain very little in real would use of a computer with faster. When you go out of the range of what is recommended by the manufacture (many of us do) you are always risking the chance that things won't work together properly. That doesn't mean you can't make it work; it just means their is a chance it won't without a lot of fiddling around.
Figuring out what hardware to buy is a long drawn out affair if done correctly. Then you have to decide whether or not you want to go outside the box and give something else a try.
To answer your question. I don't think 1600 speed ram is going out of style for a long time. I bought my ram when the price was high. If I had to start from scratch today with my system I would choose 1600 speed and as much as I could afford. The amount of ram means a lot more to the way your system works than the speed difference between 1600 and 2000.
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31 Jan 2013   #10

 

Your GS600 is way more than enough and its quality is just fine (I'm not saying this just because it's a Corsair PSU). It also has enough power to even handle two GTX 680s in your build:

GeForce GTX 680 SLI review - Power Consumption

With two GTX 680s under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 473W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I'll add 150W for an overclocked 3570K at 5 GHz (I can prove it). With a simultaneous full load on the overclocked 3570K and the two GTX 680s, the PSU would then be pulling about 623W from the wall outlet (this is a very extreme situation, mind you). So, if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 623W from the wall outlet, then that means the system is pulling about 530W from the PSU. A more realistic power draw while gaming would be about 425-450W, maybe 475W at times.

Now here's what a single GTX 460 is:

GeForce GTX 460 review (roundup) - Setup | Noise | Power consumption | Heat levels

They reviewed 8 different GTX 460s. I'll go with the one that had the highest power draw. That particular GTX 460 caused their PSU to pull 325W from the wall outlet. For the sake of comparison, the weakest 460 caused the PSU to pull 291W from the wall outlet. Their CPU was idling, so I'll add 150W again for an overclocked 3570K at 5 GHz. So 150+325=475, and so if the PSU is 85% efficient while pulling 475W from the wall outlet, then that means the system is pulling about 404W from the PSU. If I take 150+291 and multiply that by .85 for 85% efficiency, then it comes out to be 375W being pulled from the PSU. A more realistic gaming power draw would be about 275-300W.

So yeah, keep your PSU.
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