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Windows 7: Computer freezing during bootup.

03 Feb 2013   #11
ydylan77

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The power supply, if it is bad or overloaded, could very well cause some crazy things to happen on your machine. There are a plethera of possibilities out there i.e. overheating processor, dirt... but don't seem likely. The fact that you even know what an ESD strap is, just stellar. You are not "regular folk with puter problems" lol

If you are going to do a clean install then I would go about it like this:
(If you like videos...there are a metric sh** ton of them out there but this one might help a tiny bit. skip to 15 minutes in to avoid all the extra BS that you won't care about.) Or hit up youtube on your own and find something mo betta.

Newegg TV: How To Build a Computer - Part 3 - Installing Windows & Finishing Touches - YouTube

1. Install OS with the SSD being the only drive connected.
2. Install essential driver updates as needed for:
a. MotherBoard
>Processor
>NIC
>USB
b. Graphics card
2. Run windows update and only select a handfull of updates to apply at a time. If you run into a mountain of updates like i did then there may be over 100 to install. I find it best practice to install them a few at a time and keep them in order. This will help prevent bad things in case some of the updates have dependencies on one another or if there is an update that includes changes to another update.

3. Install driver updates for your other peripherals one at a time and check your system operability after each one. Not all drivers are necessarily compatible with every possible hardware configuration so....its possible they are a root cause, but I guess we will find out.

I recently overcame a similar issue to yours so I know your pain. Luckily I had a spare HDD and a system image from a while back so I just ditched my drive and started fresh(ish). Takes a few hours but not incredibly time consuming, especially since you can walk away during most of the install processes. Good luck, let me know if you run into problems, or more problems I willdo what I can...or perhaps others will weigh in on this.

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03 Feb 2013   #12
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by redzero36 View Post
Anyone have an idea of whats going wrong? Whenever I have my HDDs connected and my other usb devices connected, it freezes at "starting windows logo" screen. When I don't have my HDDs and my other usb devices disconnected I can boot fully. Then when I'm at my login screen I just plug in all my devices then it works normally. When I only have my HDDs/ USB devices pluggged in it freezes. I have to have both disconnected before I get to the login screen.
You have to connect at lease 1 HDD to be able to login. Win7 HDD has to be connected.

So disconnecting all usb and all other harddisks it works. Connect one by one and test. Which one is the problem? I you find th problem disk... connect all except that one. Works? Try to connect another disk to (maybe faulty) sata slot.
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03 Feb 2013   #13
redzero36

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

Oh could a power supply cause my boot freezing? Because the stock PSU I have is 400w. I looked at a recommend power supply wattage calculator and it says I should have a 500w PSU. I upgraded my graphics card last year so my recommended PSU was 400 calculating my old graphics card but now its 500w. Is that a possibility why computer won't start when I have my HDDs and USBs plugged in?

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@Iydylan77
did a clean install again but before I was able to read your posts. Followed what you said about the drivers but didn't know what windows updates to do so I did recommended. took way too long. Then proceeded to installing drivers one at a time this morning. same results.
@ Kaktussoft
Huh I tried what you said and I think I found the problem. When I have 2 or more things plugged into my USB hub my computer freezes. I never noticed since I always removed all HDDs at the same time and USBs at the same time since it was connected to a hub. Which is strange since I've never had this problem before I installed to SSD. When I remove all my USBs on my hub and connect it directly to USB ports then it won't freeze. I can still have my hub plugged in but just have one usb plugged in during boot.

I think my problem is solved. I'll close this in a day or two to make sure that my problem is solved.
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03 Feb 2013   #14
gregrocker

 

As suggested isolate the HD that is causing the freezing by unplugging all except the SSD, booting it alone.

Then add each HD to try booting to see if it hangs. If not then add another.

Once you isolate the HD causing the hang, move it's data off to wipe the boot sector with Diskpart Clean Command. Repartition and copy data back on.

If this fails test each SSD and HD with Partition Wizard Partition surface test and Partition Wizard Check File System
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03 Feb 2013   #15
ydylan77

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I am glad that the community was able to help you out. I know that updates are slow and time consuming. You mentioned that your recommended power supply rating is 500W, I would recommend upgrading when you can. Especially if you intend on attaching more devices or upgrading cards. If you over-stress your PS eventually its just going to crap out.

Not sure if anyone else knows better than I, but is it a possibility that your hub may have a fault? Since when devices are connected to the hub during start up your PC freezes, where all is well when they are have a direct connection to the PC ports. But then again it could point to the Power supply being insufficient, with all your connected devices pulling power simultaneously at initial power on. Start up is when they all demand the most power at the same time. When you connect them after start up power demands from your system have calmed down. Someone call me out if I am way off base here but unless its a faulted device then I think you just might need to get a higher rated PS.
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04 Feb 2013   #16
redzero36

Windows 7 Ultimate x64 SP1
 
 

thanks ydylan77 and Kaktussoft. I'll definitely upgrade my power supply as soon as possible. I haven't had a problem since, been updating drivers and restarting to check if it freezes but it doesn't. Thanks for the help and advice. This thread is solved. If anything else just pm me.
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05 Feb 2013   #17
Kaktussoft

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bits 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by redzero36 View Post
@ Kaktussoft
Huh I tried what you said and I think I found the problem. When I have 2 or more things plugged into my USB hub my computer freezes. I never noticed since I always removed all HDDs at the same time and USBs at the same time since it was connected to a hub. Which is strange since I've never had this problem before I installed to SSD. When I remove all my USBs on my hub and connect it directly to USB ports then it won't freeze. I can still have my hub plugged in but just have one usb plugged in during boot.

I think my problem is solved. I'll close this in a day or two to make sure that my problem is solved.
2 disks connected to same hub doesn't provide enough power!
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06 Feb 2013   #18
ydylan77

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

maximum power for most USB ports is limited to ~500mA. If you are using an un-powered hub it is possible to have too much crap connected. Unless you need portable data I prefer to keep my HDs in the case and connect to the PS and SATA. Then if you wanna get fancy you can start playing with RAID.


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