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Windows 7: Change folder/file location - use Move, Symbolic link or Junction?

20 Feb 2013   #11
Highcountryride

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
It doesn't matter where you install the program. you decide and can be changed in install procedure.
Your profile will be on E. appdata, documts,images,videos.... user registry... everything specific for that user.

What makes you find it scary? You just create a new user on E. Copy files over from old account to new account. (not appdata!! only documents!)

old account is still there and working! Nothing to be scared about.
Scary when trying new procedures for the first time! OK, it sounds like you're saying that any programs or software I installed using my current user profile will have to be re-installed using the new user profile, is that correct?


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20 Feb 2013   #12
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Highcountryride View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
It doesn't matter where you install the program. you decide and can be changed in install procedure.
Your profile will be on E. appdata, documts,images,videos.... user registry... everything specific for that user.

What makes you find it scary? You just create a new user on E. Copy files over from old account to new account. (not appdata!! only documents!)

old account is still there and working! Nothing to be scared about.
Scary when trying new procedures for the first time! OK, it sounds like you're saying that any programs or software I installed using my current user profile will have to be re-installed using the new user profile, is that correct?
No!! Only programs you installed "for this account only". You either did check it on install or program did it itself. Not many program do this.

Most programs install for all users by default. They do set settings in registry key HKLM and copy them only if they don't exist in HKCU. So if a user runs the program the first time the defult settings are copied. They can be changed later by the user. Otherwise a other or new user can't get the default settings!
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20 Feb 2013   #13
Kaktussoft

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In old account:

What's in folder %userprofile%\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs ?
What's in folder %userprofile%\Desktop (except files and stuff you placed there yourself)?

In new account:
Check those programs you saw in folders I described above. If not working...reinstall them
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20 Feb 2013   #14
Highcountryride

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I will study this, make the changes you suggested and let you know results. Thanks for the time and information. This should help with the SSD longevity and performance. Will the new user account profile on E be included in a system image backup?
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20 Feb 2013   #15
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Highcountryride View Post
I will study this, make the changes you suggested and let you know results. Thanks for the time and information. This should help with the SSD longevity and performance. Will the new user account profile on E be included in a system image backup?
You mean win7 standard system image backup? hmmmm... I don't know. Just try it. Maybe you can include E as well in the wizard?

I use Macrium Reflect FREE to make volume backups. Very easy and more flexibel. For example win7 system image backup can only be restored to the same disk and partition layout. If the destination disk doesn't have this... the destination disk will be wiped and be made exactly as it was when you made the backup. So all other partitions are gone in this case. This also means you can't restore to a smaller disk.

Use Macrium Reflect FREE instead! It is also possible to mount the image as virtual drive (read only) and restore only a few files.
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20 Feb 2013   #16
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

User Profile - Change Default Location
Use option One if you want to move an exisitng account
Use Option Two to create all new accounts on another drive

I've used both - Option Two is easiest.

I've also played around with the idea of installing apps on a different drive. I ended up creating a junction on C:\ for
Program Files and Program Files (x86) that point to folders on the other drive.
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20 Feb 2013   #17
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Only System Reserve and C:\ are considered system image.

Kaktus is correct though, you can include drives/folders of your choosing.

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Highcountryride View Post
I will study this, make the changes you suggested and let you know results. Thanks for the time and information. This should help with the SSD longevity and performance. Will the new user account profile on E be included in a system image backup?
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20 Feb 2013   #18
Highcountryride

Window 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Highcountryride View Post
I will study this, make the changes you suggested and let you know results. Thanks for the time and information. This should help with the SSD longevity and performance. Will the new user account profile on E be included in a system image backup?
You mean win7 standard system image backup? hmmmm... I don't know. Just try it. Maybe you can include E as well in the wizard?

I use Macrium Reflect FREE to make volume backups. Very easy and more flexibel. For example win7 system image backup can only be restored to the same disk and partition layout. If the destination disk doesn't have this... the destination disk will be wiped and be made exactly as it was when you made the backup. So all other partitions are gone in this case. This also means you can't restore to a smaller disk.

Use Macrium Reflect FREE instead! It is also possible to mount the image as virtual drive (read only) and restore only a few files.
Yes, I did mean Windows 7 Backup. Actually, I have Acronis TI 2012 and can use that to customize a full system backup and then also create a backup of other files and folders which would include all the necessary stuff on the E drive (including the user profiles). I had been using Windows 7 backup with this new build just until I got everything installed and setup.

Thanks to all who responded. I've got as much information as I can handle right now on how to change the location of the user profiles. My main concern was to figure out a way to get the User>AppData>Roaming folder to the E drive as that folder can grow to a considerable size.
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21 Feb 2013   #19
Kaktussoft

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Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
User Profile - Change Default Location
Use option One if you want to move an exisitng account
Use Option Two to create all new accounts on another drive

I've used both - Option Two is easiest.

I've also played around with the idea of installing apps on a different drive. I ended up creating a junction on C:\ for
Program Files and Program Files (x86) that point to folders on the other drive.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/87555-user-profile-change-default-location.html is far from perfect! You copy when logged on as another user. That other user makes the files will be the owner of all files. Also permissions to files are lost. They will be default permissions so inhereted from parent. So most likely read and execute for standard users. and full control for administrators. Also junction points are not copied.
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23 Feb 2013   #20
Highcountryride

Window 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Kaktussoft View Post
Listen carefully . Open regedit and browse to HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\ProfileList
On the right side you see a key named ProfilesDirectory its value is %SystemDrive%\Users

%SystemDrive%\Users is same as C:\USERS. Under this folder new users will be created.
doubleclick on ProfilesDirectory and change the value for example to D:\USERS (if you want new accounts under D:\users)

If value has been changed, create a new user. Logon as that user. Has it created a folder D:\users\<newuser>?
You may set the value of ProfilesDirectory back to old value to prevent the same for new users in the future.

When still logged on as the new user: Copy important files over from old account. Do it from within new user, forcing it to become the new owner of those files.

Check in old account folder C:\Users\old_user\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs
Any stuff there? check if those programs are working in new account. Otherwise reinstall those programs

Check old account C:\users\old_user\Desktop as well

Those stuff indicates that a program was installed "for this user only". So reinstall that program in new account

If all is working fine you can delete the old user (and its files).

Any questions?
Well, I did as listed above. Everything worked...well, almost. I had to do some reconfiguring and a couple of the programs that I know were installed for all users are not working properly so looks like I will have to re-install those. Overall, this did exactly what I wanted which was to get all the documents, pictures, videos, AppData, etc. off the SSD and onto the secondary HDD.

I'm pretty sure Acronis will allow me to do a system backup and include the new user folder and the data that will be stored on the secondary HDD. A bit more of a hassle but worth it. Thanks again for your input and suggestions.
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