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Windows 7: Hidden Files and Folders

02 Apr 2013   #11
nilank

 

Since I don't use IE, I don't have much idea of where and how IE stores/manages temp files but I got this:

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That's the temp folder. That's all I know.




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02 Apr 2013   #12
Jacee
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate 32bit SP1
 
 

You could try unhide ... to see what and where they're hidden

Unhide.exe (http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/grinler/unhide.exe) (by Grinler)
Once the program has been downloaded, double-click on the Unhide.exe icon on your desktop and allow the program to run. This program will remove the +H, or hidden, attribute from all the files on your hard drives. If there are any files that were purposely hidden by you, you will need to hide them again after this tool is run."
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03 Apr 2013   #13
TinCanKenny

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
You could try unhide ... to see what and where they're hidden

Unhide.exe (http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/grinler/unhide.exe) (by Grinler)
Once the program has been downloaded, double-click on the Unhide.exe icon on your desktop and allow the program to run. This program will remove the +H, or hidden, attribute from all the files on your hard drives. If there are any files that were purposely hidden by you, you will need to hide them again after this tool is run."
Hi Jacee........it's way past my bedtime so will have a look at this tomorrow. Thanks for sending it my way.
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03 Apr 2013   #14
cyrilhubert

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

I understand what you meant.

Here is my rant:
Since Windows Vista, all internet webpages or files viewed by the user(s) is (are) viewed as dangerous. MS downgraded these files as security threats. So, these internet webpages are hidden or jumbled up in different TIFs subfolders.
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03 Apr 2013   #15
TinCanKenny

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Jacee View Post
You could try unhide ... to see what and where they're hidden

Unhide.exe (http://download.bleepingcomputer.com/grinler/unhide.exe) (by Grinler)
Once the program has been downloaded, double-click on the Unhide.exe icon on your desktop and allow the program to run. This program will remove the +H, or hidden, attribute from all the files on your hard drives. If there are any files that were purposely hidden by you, you will need to hide them again after this tool is run."
Back to it this morning........this looks like some third party program to open all the hidden files on my computer because of some "infection" and I don't think I want to go there. I'm a bit surprised that your link is the actual "executable" as someone could accidentally install this program if they did not know what they were doing.
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03 Apr 2013   #16
Alejandro85

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TinCanKenny View Post
I get that part Nilank but I am still having a problem sorting out everything that is in the Windows 7 temporary internet files and where it is "all" stored. If I navigate to
C:\Users\mainuser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files and check the properties, it shows that I have 469mb in there. Then when I navigate to: C:\Users\mainuser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Low\Content.IE5 it displays the 32 folders that are listed under Low\Content.IE5, the properties of those folders only total 102mb. So this leads me to believe that 367mb are hidden somewhere else and I would like to find them.
Also I would like to know the purpose of setting a recommended limit of 250mb for the temporary internet files as nothing seems to happen if you exceed that limit.
You got it a bit wrong. It effectively have 2 "temporary internet files" for the IE cache. The one on AppData\Local is the one for "normal" browsing and another in AppData\Low used when using the so-called "protected mode IE" which runs at low integrity, which cannot be shared for security reasons.
They are 2 completely different folders which adds to the storage used by IE, generated by the fact that IE can run in both low and medium integrity levels. They aren't a "copy" of any sort of each other, so you must account them separately. In total in you case, you have 571MB in use for that.

The 250MB limit is just a value for limiting the new content there, rather arbitrarily. The browser will store contents viewed up to that limit, and from that onwards it just deletes the oldest to keep inside the limit, so it doesn't grows indefinitely. No idea how does that behaves if files are already there exceeding that limit.
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04 Apr 2013   #17
TinCanKenny

Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Alejandro85 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by TinCanKenny View Post
I get that part Nilank but I am still having a problem sorting out everything that is in the Windows 7 temporary internet files and where it is "all" stored. If I navigate to
C:\Users\mainuser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files and check the properties, it shows that I have 469mb in there. Then when I navigate to: C:\Users\mainuser\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows\Temporary Internet Files\Low\Content.IE5 it displays the 32 folders that are listed under Low\Content.IE5, the properties of those folders only total 102mb. So this leads me to believe that 367mb are hidden somewhere else and I would like to find them.
Also I would like to know the purpose of setting a recommended limit of 250mb for the temporary internet files as nothing seems to happen if you exceed that limit.
You got it a bit wrong. It effectively have 2 "temporary internet files" for the IE cache. The one on AppData\Local is the one for "normal" browsing and another in AppData\Low used when using the so-called "protected mode IE" which runs at low integrity, which cannot be shared for security reasons.
They are 2 completely different folders which adds to the storage used by IE, generated by the fact that IE can run in both low and medium integrity levels. They aren't a "copy" of any sort of each other, so you must account them separately. In total in you case, you have 571MB in use for that.

The 250MB limit is just a value for limiting the new content there, rather arbitrarily. The browser will store contents viewed up to that limit, and from that onwards it just deletes the oldest to keep inside the limit, so it doesn't grows indefinitely. No idea how does that behaves if files are already there exceeding that limit.
I am still a bit confused on this issue. You say there are two temporary internet files for the IE cache but when I go to the control panel>internet options>delete history, and delete temporary internet files, cookies, history, download history, form data, passwords, and active x filtering leaving only the "Preserve Favorites website data" unchecked, it does not delete everything in the temporary internet files, it leaves 364mb of data still in there. This is very confusing to me in that they only recommend that you allow 250mb for the temporary internet files and there is more than that in there before you start browsing????
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06 Apr 2013   #18
cyrilhubert

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Well, that is true. When I deleted my cache, I was shocked to see nothing was deleted. Actually, only the non-hidden IE TIFs were deleted and the rest hidden files were intact.

So, it's time wasting session again, if you have the time.

I 1st learn the hard way. DO NOT follow this advice!

---> I downloaded nirsoft's video cache view (this pc of good stuff now contained some tracking malware if you downloaded and run it)

Search for any video you might have watched. It will show the contents location.
Saved the location ie C:\Users\xxx\ in notepad for future use.
Go to the index directory you will see the rest of the hidden folders or use wildcards *.* in the search box to find what ever you want or delete the selected file types.

That's what I did to find the hidden TIF locations 3 yrs ago. Now, nirsoft's video cache view is mined with tracking malware, I do not advise you to use it.

If you open a webpage from TIF it's just a page with words without the rests.
What you viewed in IE and want it in completeness (whole webpages with pics) you must saved immediately while ONLINE.
Unlike in Win98 to XP, IE has been programmed to jumbled up the hidden files and does not allow the webpages with contents to remain in 1 complete entity in the TIF.
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06 Apr 2013   #19
Frank1

Desk Top with Win 7 Home Premium 64 bit and Lap Top with Windows 8.1 Pro 64 bit
 
 

Here is my opinion on the temporary internet files. Remember it's only an opinion and there are members here who know a lot more about this stuff than I do, so I would like to hear how some of the others feel about it. Are any of you old enough to remember the cars of years ago?
The cars had a hand crank so that in case the car wouldn't start, you could crank it manually to get it started. The crank in those day was a good and necessary thing to have. Of course the cars of today do not need cranks so the manufacture does not put one on. Here's how I feel about it. When Microsoft puts in the temporary internet files, it's like putting a crank on a new car. Years ago internet connections were very, very slow. With the temporary internet files, if you went back to a site that you were previously on, it didn't take long to load because of the information from the site was already on your computer. Since connections now are do much faster, they are not only un-necessary , but if you have too many on they could slow down your computer. I think I am correct in what I said (or at least partially correct). If not, my feelings will not be hurt if you tell me that I have it all wrong. I feel the same way about the page file which was originally called the swap file. When I got my first computer RAM was $50.00 a meg (not a gig but a meg). Consequently we didn't have nearly as much RAM on our system in those days. So MS came up with the swap file. With our RAM now in hundreds of meg which is measured now in GB, I don't see why MS can't do away with the RAM. So I think that temporary internet files and page file are like putting a crank on a new car. Again, I've been known to be wrong so, I would like someone else's opinion.
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07 Apr 2013   #20
cyrilhubert

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
 
 

Hi Frank,
I agree with you. MS thinks everyone is rich and works with all the OEM to push for upgrades all the time. I like the old stuff like Win 98 to XP where TIF is not hidden and everything is arranged according to your likings.
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