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Windows 7: changing "starting windows" message and other MUI questions

01 Jun 2013   #1
mikesw

windows 7 ultimate x32
 
 
changing "starting windows" message and other MUI questions

A friend has win 7 x32 Ultimate SP1 installed on a laptop. He installed the Bulgarian MUI language pack. According to Msoft, this language hasn't been fully converted for the English version of the OS. There is no information that says what areas are fully converted and which ones not for the OS. The Internet Exploer 10 has the Bulgarian lang also installed.

He wants to send this laptop to his mother-in-law overseas who knows no English but wants to play on the computer and is embarrassed to let others know she knows nothing about computers.

The problem is, the OS messages on shutdown are in Bulgarian, but not all the startup messages.
In particular is the "Starting Windows" message on bootup. I don't see a tutorial on how to edit some file to check the string messages to see which ones aren't translated and have him translate the rest to Bulgarian, save the file and test it to make sure the messages are correct for her. I see the shutdown message tutorial and the Welcome one, but not bootup.

Is this typically the case for any "not fully translated" MUI installed on an English Win 7 (or vista)? What if the Win 7 was orginally installed with the Bulgarian native version of the OS? That is the version sold in Bulgaria would be fully translated and one would then have to install the English MUI. Maybe this is the route to take.

Are there any projects out there whereby people use resource hacker to convert non-fully translated MUIs for win 7 into a fully translated version of the OS? Then one would unzip the updated file versions onto their system to bring it up to a fully translated OS.

What about extracting the MUI download and using Resource hacker to correct/update the translations and then repackage and install this updated MUI onto the English version? Hence ones own custom MUI pack.

Another question is, I want to use dism to patch my AIO with all the hotfixes using the hotfix rollup, Msoft reliability and improvement fixes, and sec updates onto my Win 7 SP1, plut dotnetfix and other programs such as IE 10. However, MSoft says that if I install this patched Win 7 Sp1 and then try to install a Language MUI, that it breaks some of the translations. One must install the MUI before patching SP1 to prevent this. Is this true? Is there a MUI service pack for win 7 sp1 out yet?

I've tried this, but no change in the "starting windows" message in the Bulgarian language

open elevated CMD and do these 2 commands :
bcdedit /set {current} locale BG-bg
bcdboot %WinDir% /l BG-bg

Anybody play with "Visual bcdeditor" at ,
Visual BCD Editor - Windows 7|Vista




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02 Jun 2013   #2
Ben050

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 32-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikesw View Post
A friend has win 7 x32 Ultimate SP1 installed on a laptop. He installed the Bulgarian MUI language pack. According to Msoft, this language hasn't been fully converted for the English version of the OS. There is no information that says what areas are fully converted and which ones not for the OS. The Internet Exploer 10 has the Bulgarian lang also installed.

He wants to send this laptop to his mother-in-law overseas who knows no English but wants to play on the computer and is embarrassed to let others know she knows nothing about computers.

The problem is, the OS messages on shutdown are in Bulgarian, but not all the startup messages.
In particular is the "Starting Windows" message on bootup. I don't see a tutorial on how to edit some file to check the string messages to see which ones aren't translated and have him translate the rest to Bulgarian, save the file and test it to make sure the messages are correct for her. I see the shutdown message tutorial and the Welcome one, but not bootup.

Is this typically the case for any "not fully translated" MUI installed on an English Win 7 (or vista)? What if the Win 7 was orginally installed with the Bulgarian native version of the OS? That is the version sold in Bulgaria would be fully translated and one would then have to install the English MUI. Maybe this is the route to take.

Are there any projects out there whereby people use resource hacker to convert non-fully translated MUIs for win 7 into a fully translated version of the OS? Then one would unzip the updated file versions onto their system to bring it up to a fully translated OS.

What about extracting the MUI download and using Resource hacker to correct/update the translations and then repackage and install this updated MUI onto the English version? Hence ones own custom MUI pack.

Another question is, I want to use dism to patch my AIO with all the hotfixes using the hotfix rollup, Msoft reliability and improvement fixes, and sec updates onto my Win 7 SP1, plut dotnetfix and other programs such as IE 10. However, MSoft says that if I install this patched Win 7 Sp1 and then try to install a Language MUI, that it breaks some of the translations. One must install the MUI before patching SP1 to prevent this. Is this true? Is there a MUI service pack for win 7 sp1 out yet?

I've tried this, but no change in the "starting windows" message in the Bulgarian language

open elevated CMD and do these 2 commands :
bcdedit /set {current} locale BG-bg
bcdboot %WinDir% /l BG-bg

Anybody play with "Visual bcdeditor" at ,
Visual BCD Editor - Windows 7|Vista

No help, Because this post breaks the forum rules.
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02 Jun 2013   #3
mikesw

windows 7 ultimate x32
 
 

How can a tutorial on changing the "starting windows" message break forum rules, when there is a tutorial on how to change the "shutdown" message and "logon" message and startup sound, and background etc? confused...Perhaps my question belongs under the "customization" section of the forum.

How can asking a question on Msofts "dism" break forum rules?
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02 Jun 2013   #4
Ben050

Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 32-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikesw View Post
How can a tutorial on changing the "starting windows" message break forum rules, when there is a tutorial on how to change the "shutdown" message and "logon" message and startup sound, and background etc? confused...Perhaps my question belongs under the "customization" section of the forum.

How can asking a question on Msofts "dism" break forum rules?
Try Resource Hacker. If startup and shut off sound Use Sound control panel.
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02 Jun 2013   #5
Kari

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikesw View Post
How can a tutorial on changing the "starting windows" message break forum rules, when there is a tutorial on how to change the "shutdown" message and "logon" message and startup sound, and background etc? confused...Perhaps my question belongs under the "customization" section of the forum.

How can asking a question on Msofts "dism" break forum rules?
Hi Mike, welcome to the Seven Forums.

Sometimes even the best of geeks post something before thinking. The best reaction is then not to react at all .

As language packs are a feature of Windows 7 Ultimate and and Enterprise editions there's of course nothing against forum rules that would make your question invalid. Here's a tip, follow this tutorial to change the welcome, log on and log off screens to Bulgarian: Region and Language Settings - Copy to New Users and Welcome Screen

If you wipe the PC clean and reinstall Windows before shipping it to your friends mother, you could also try installing the Bulgarian language pack in Audit Mode during the installation and the when finalizing the installation select Bulgarian as the main language. Read this post about a similar issue for more information.

The text Starting Windows remains in original language, in this case English. I really do not understand how this could be an issue as the text is visible a few seconds only when booting the PC?

It is possible to change the startup animation which includes the Starting Windows text but as I have never done it I cannot tell you how to do that. Search Internet for Windows 7 boot animation and go from there. If you want to you can also disable the boot animation: GUI Boot - Enable or Disable in Windows

Kari
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02 Jun 2013   #6
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mikesw View Post
A friend has win 7 x32 Ultimate SP1 installed on a laptop. He installed the Bulgarian MUI language pack. According to Msoft, this language hasn't been fully converted for the English version of the OS. There is no information that says what areas are fully converted and which ones not for the OS. The Internet Exploer 10 has the Bulgarian lang also installed.

He wants to send this laptop to his mother-in-law overseas who knows no English but wants to play on the computer and is embarrassed to let others know she knows nothing about computers.

The problem is, the OS messages on shutdown are in Bulgarian, but not all the startup messages.
In particular is the "Starting Windows" message on bootup. I don't see a tutorial on how to edit some file to check the string messages to see which ones aren't translated and have him translate the rest to Bulgarian, save the file and test it to make sure the messages are correct for her. I see the shutdown message tutorial and the Welcome one, but not bootup.

Is this typically the case for any "not fully translated" MUI installed on an English Win 7 (or vista)? What if the Win 7 was orginally installed with the Bulgarian native version of the OS? That is the version sold in Bulgaria would be fully translated and one would then have to install the English MUI. Maybe this is the route to take.

Are there any projects out there whereby people use resource hacker to convert non-fully translated MUIs for win 7 into a fully translated version of the OS? Then one would unzip the updated file versions onto their system to bring it up to a fully translated OS.

What about extracting the MUI download and using Resource hacker to correct/update the translations and then repackage and install this updated MUI onto the English version? Hence ones own custom MUI pack.

Another question is, I want to use dism to patch my AIO with all the hotfixes using the hotfix rollup, Msoft reliability and improvement fixes, and sec updates onto my Win 7 SP1, plut dotnetfix and other programs such as IE 10. However, MSoft says that if I install this patched Win 7 Sp1 and then try to install a Language MUI, that it breaks some of the translations. One must install the MUI before patching SP1 to prevent this. Is this true? Is there a MUI service pack for win 7 sp1 out yet?

I've tried this, but no change in the "starting windows" message in the Bulgarian language

open elevated CMD and do these 2 commands :
bcdedit /set {current} locale BG-bg
bcdboot %WinDir% /l BG-bg

Anybody play with "Visual bcdeditor" at ,
Visual BCD Editor - Windows 7|Vista

Hi there
Install the Language pack and then you can set the display language to Bulgarian -- you should then get about 99% of all the displays in Bulgarian. You can also download similar language packs for Office too.

I'm running W8 so my screenshot is not exactly the same as W7 but it's similar -- set it from Language in the control panel. Download and install the language packs first though -- 32 / 64 bit depending on the version of Windows. Note also you can only install these on W7 PRO and above -- won't work on HOME PREMIUM unfortunately.

The most successful way to get this stuff to work is to install the base ENGLISH version of Windows and then add the languages you want. Note also if you need extra (non latin or even Double byte character sets - you'll have to add the language as an input method too).

I'm not 100% sure about the initial starting windows message though - mine boots from an SSD so fast that I don't have time to see it -- the password prompt message / logon is in Icelandic though.

A possible "Brute force" method might be to search windows where the boot splash screens are loaded from and if you can find a text string "Starting Windows" - use a disk text editor to translate and change the text - but backup your system first in case this hoses it all up.

Cheers
jimbo


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