Advice on Getting a Windows 7 computer

gregrocker · 16 Oct 2009

Lee said:

Gateway still provides a clean OEM disk (anyway it did for my FX-7026).

All the information that has been departed to you is excellent, wait until Oct. 22, to buy a new system. Then if you do did help in getting the blot ware off come back to the "Seven Forum," and all of us will give you hand getting it cleaned up along with running smoothly.

Lee thanks again for the useful info. Gateway/eMachines (which also provided the clean disk) is a great company and I am concerned about whether new owner Acer will change that. My friend called Acer and got the same HP/Toshiba spiel about how they won't support clean installs or supply clean OS disk, although they offered to send free recovery disks since he called within 90 days, which is good since we deleted the recovery partition and reinstalled Vista clean from my eMachines OEM which ended chronic blue screens.

When talking with these guys you have to speak hypothetically since they will void your tech support warranty for clean installs, another good reason to keep their recovery disks in case the machine needs to be supported or for factory restore in case of sale, etc..

gpatrick · 16 Oct 2009

gregrocker said:

Lee said:

Gateway still provides a clean OEM disk (anyway it did for my FX-7026).

All the information that has been departed to you is excellent, wait until Oct. 22, to buy a new system. Then if you do did help in getting the blot ware off come back to the "Seven Forum," and all of us will give you hand getting it cleaned up along with running smoothly.

Lee thanks again for the useful info. Gateway/eMachines (which also provided the clean disk) is a great company and I am concerned about whether new owner Acer will change that. My friend called Acer and got the same HP/Toshiba spiel about how they won't support clean installs or supply clean OS disk, although they offered to send free recovery disks since he called within 90 days, which is good since we deleted the recovery partition and reinstalled Vista clean from my eMachines OEM which ended chronic blue screens.

When talking with these guys you have to speak hypothetically since they will void your tech support warranty for clean installs, another good reason to keep their recovery disks in case the machine needs to be supported or for factory restore in case of sale, etc..

They could still provide the software on the disk. (AST did that with windows 95). This way people could install what they want.

Wouldn't it be better to do what the customer wants and make a sale, then don't do what the customer want and not make a sale? I tend to buy from computer shops for just that reason.

gregrocker · 16 Oct 2009

gpatrick said:

Wouldn't it be better to do what the customer wants and make a sale, then don't do what the customer want and not make a sale? I tend to buy from computer shops for just that reason.

Sure it would be better for us, but these are corporations and we know what direction those are going now. They get paid a huge amount by vendors like Symantec, eBay, disk burners, etc, and get price breaks for OEM's from MS for including pre-installed Office trial - all of which makes up perhaps MOST of their profit margin.

The result for consumers is cheaper computers and makers they have become unfriendly toward clean reinstalls, since their vendors want their bloatware enforced as much as possible on these machines for as long as possible. For inexperienced users this results in performance degradation of up to 90% due to free-riders on RAM, registry corruption, etc. It has made me a clean-reinstall hobbyist who loves doing each one like a puzzle, watching friends and family's computers go from stuttering to lightning fast.