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21 Jul 2013   #11
MouseGolf

Windows 7 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I've had UAC tell me a couple of times a program was self-starting a process I didn't want it to do at the time. Both times, it was harmless—the program was doing what it was supposed to—and all that was needed was to tweak the programs settings a little. However, it just as easily could have been a nasty up to no good.
In my case, working on computers remotely around the world from my home (residentail remote service) the first thing I do is disable UAC so I can get whatever job they are asking of me done more quickly. During the remote session we are talking on the phone or Skype, I ask them if they would like the UAC re-enabled and the answer is "no".

That's the beauty of Windows 7. We have access to everything we want to customize and having said that, my PC Station will be W7 for years to come. IMHO W7 is the flagship OS from Microsoft and for what is worth, I feel W8 and W8.1 are user hostile. I have recommended to all my clients that they upgrade their Vista computers with an upgrade disk from wherever they feel comfortable buying it online. As for XP users, if their machines are 32 bit and very old I suggest they buy a new Windows 7 computer online.


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21 Jul 2013   #12
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

I'm still baffled by complaints about UAC slowing one down. It's kind of like carping about automobile seatbelts. How long does it take to click on the darned popup? When I initiate a process, I know the popup is coming (takes a whole second or less on a slow day) and I'm poised to click on it after a quick glance to be sure it's the process I initiated. Big fat hairy deal.
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21 Jul 2013   #13
MouseGolf

Windows 7 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
I'm still baffled by complaints about UAC slowing one down. It's kind of like carping about automobile seatbelts. How long does it take to click on the darned popup? When I initiate a process, I know the popup is coming (takes a whole second or less on a slow day) and I'm poised to click on it after a quick glance to be sure it's the process I initiated. Big fat hairy deal.
Like I said, it's a personal choice. When I am working on my system or anyone's system the UAC pop-up disrupts the continuity for me. No argument here that one should or should not use it, I just prefer not to and when asked by my client's if they can disable it or if I would disable it for them I always say "yes".

But we are a bit off topic from the original post.

The main thing I wanted point out to everyone is the speed of accessing the standard Windows Start Menu. To me it's the best first-tool in Windows. I would like to see it returned in all it's glory in W9, it's too late for W8 and people are downloading free W8 Start Menus in droves.
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21 Jul 2013   #14
brotherboard

Windows 10 Pro 64Bit
 
 

"when asked by my client's if they can disable it"

Of course they or you CAN disable it, the real question is SHOULD you disable it.

The argument about UAC slowing people down is ludicrous. How long a period of time or, how short a period of time does it take read the alert, move the mouse and click OK? Seems a very small price to pay for extra protection.
If you find this a major pain the neck you need physiotherapy
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21 Jul 2013   #15
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brotherboard View Post
"when asked by my client's if they can disable it"

Of course they or you CAN disable it, the real question is SHOULD you disable it.

The argument about UAC slowing people down is ludicrous. How long a period of time or, how short a period of time does it take read the alert, move the mouse and click OK? Seems a very small price to pay for extra protection.
If you find this a major pain the neck you need physiotherapy
Actually, the pain is about 2' lower. Other than that, I so totally agree with you. The interesting thing is, the clients probably are the ones who need UAC most.
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21 Jul 2013   #16
MouseGolf

Windows 7 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brotherboard View Post
"when asked by my client's if they can disable it"

Of course they or you CAN disable it, the real question is SHOULD you disable it.

The argument about UAC slowing people down is ludicrous. How long a period of time or, how short a period of time does it take read the alert, move the mouse and click OK? Seems a very small price to pay for extra protection.
If you find this a major pain the neck you need physiotherapy
Your statement is combative. I tell people they can, meaning they "can" do it on their own or I can do it for them when I am connected to their computer.

As for "should" anyone disable it? That's a personal choice. My personal choice is "disable it".

Please don't be so vicious in your interaction in this post. I have cleary stated that disabling UAC is a personal choice. Let's not let this topic go down a combative path.
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21 Jul 2013   #17
Lady Fitzgerald

Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by SuperTweaker View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by brotherboard View Post
"when asked by my client's if they can disable it"

Of course they or you CAN disable it, the real question is SHOULD you disable it.

The argument about UAC slowing people down is ludicrous. How long a period of time or, how short a period of time does it take read the alert, move the mouse and click OK? Seems a very small price to pay for extra protection.
If you find this a major pain the neck you need physiotherapy
Your statement is combative. I tell people they can, meaning they "can" do it on their own or I can do it for them when I am connected to their computer.

As for "should" anyone disable it? That's a personal choice. My personal choice is "disable it".

Please don't be so vicious in your interaction in this post. I have cleary stated that disabling UAC is a personal choice. Let's not let this topic go down a combative path.
I totally agree with you about personal choice (that's one of the benefits of Win 7, unlike Win 8's "my way or the highway) but I also feel it should be an informed choice. While I feel it is the users' prerogative to turn off UAC or not, I also feel they should understand why it's there before making that choice. If a user isn't knowledgeable enough to know why UAC is there and the possible consequences of turning it off, then I would advise leaving it on. It's just not that big a deal otherwise I would probably turn it off instead of cranking it all the way up since it is as annoying as an itch you can't reach. Automotive seatbelts are also annoying (actually, more so) but I wear them anyway (and did before they became mandatory).
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21 Jul 2013   #18
MouseGolf

Windows 7 64 Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Lady Fitzgerald View Post
Automotive seatbelts are also annoying (actually, more so) but I wear them anyway (and did before they became mandatory).
That's good because you're far more likely to need the security of a seat belt then the security offered by UAC. Plus, you'll not have to adjust your seat belt every 2 miles you travel down the road.
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21 Jul 2013   #19
alphanumeric

Windows 10 Education 64 bit
 
 

Unless Microsoft does an about face or some kind or compromise I think I'll be running Windows 7 on my desktop PC's for quite a while. I back UAC down one click from the default.
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21 Jul 2013   #20
Lee

Win 7 Pro x64, VM Win XP, Win7 Pro Sandbox, Kubuntu 11
 
 

This thread is what is wrong with things now days. . .it seems that at the end of the day is about nothing more then how much someone hates windows 8.

Sometimes I wonder if I am on Seven Forums or Macrumors Forum. They both seem to be taking the same road. . .I hate OS X 10.8.3 it is just a piece of . . .; I hate Windows 8/8.1 it is just a piece of. . .

I think you get the point.
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