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Windows 7: Admin and Standard Account Users

01 Sep 2013   #11
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

I used the instructions from the tutorial.

Built-in Administrator Account - Enable or Disable

If I need to have the admin account active, is there a way not to display this at the logon screen ?


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01 Sep 2013   #12
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post
If I need to have the admin account active, is there a way not to display this at the logon screen ?
If you really insist on doing this then look here:
login - How to hide admin account and only show main user at logon screen in Windows 7? - Super User
But remeber you will not be able to login to Admin unless you edit the registry every time. That in my view would not be a good choice. One false move and you will have lost the ability to login with anything!
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01 Sep 2013   #13
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post
Thanks for all your replies,

I have attached a pic of the message that appears when something wants a admin password as it shows it doesn't give me the option to enter in the password when I disable the admin account.

Perhaps I am making a mistake somewhere as I want the standard account to appear and hide the admin account but allow the UAC prompts to work as normal.
Going back to your other point:
What account were you in when you got this UAC window ? I would guess it was the standard user account but await your reply!
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01 Sep 2013   #14
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post
Thanks for all your replies,

I have attached a pic of the message that appears when something wants a admin password as it shows it doesn't give me the option to enter in the password when I disable the admin account.

Perhaps I am making a mistake somewhere as I want the standard account to appear and hide the admin account but allow the UAC prompts to work as normal.
Going back to your other point:
What account were you in when you got this UAC window ? I would guess it was the standard user account but await your reply!
Yes I was in the standard account
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01 Sep 2013   #15
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell65 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post
If I need to have the admin account active, is there a way not to display this at the logon screen ?
If you really insist on doing this then look here:
login - How to hide admin account and only show main user at logon screen in Windows 7? - Super User
But remeber you will not be able to login to Admin unless you edit the registry every time. That in my view would not be a good choice. One false move and you will have lost the ability to login with anything!
I tried this method and unfortunately it didn't work as I wanted, as the standard user still had no option to enter the admin password.
Also this method is very difficult to reverse as there is no way to edit the registry without an admin account. It has taken me a few hours to get my PC back to normal.
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01 Sep 2013   #16
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Then I can see why you got that message. Whether you have UAC enabled or not when in a standard user account you do not have permissions to defrag a hard drive or any other system husbandry for that matter. It wouldn't make sense to give all your users this option as they might just as well be given full Admin permissions!
BTW I think you will find if you search through this Forum that the general opinion of most of the experts here say that with Windows 7 you do not need third party clean up software, that provided within Windows 7 is quite sufficient for most needs. Indeed there is a big raft of opinion that suggests that some of these third party programs especiall registry cleaners do more harm than good. It's always as well to seek expert opinion here before installing and using these programs.
EDIT: Our posts crossed there but I think my post explains why you can't edit the registry in a standard user account.

Just interested by why is it so necessary to hide the admin account at the login screen?
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01 Sep 2013   #17
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell65 View Post
Then I can see why you got that message. Whether you have UAC enabled or not when in a standard user account you do not have permissions to defrag a hard drive or any other system husbandry for that matter. It wouldn't make sense to give all your users this option as they might just as well be given full Admin permissions!
BTW I think you will find if you search through this Forum that the general opinion of most of the experts here say that with Windows 7 you do not need third party clean up software, that provided within Windows 7 is quite sufficient for most needs. Indeed there is a big raft of opinion that suggests that some of these third party programs especiall registry cleaners do more harm than good. It's always as well to seek expert opinion here before installing and using these programs.
EDIT: Our posts crossed there but I think my post explains why you can't edit the registry in a standard user account.

Just interested by why is it so necessary to hide the admin account at the login screen?
I was doing an experiment where i could hide the admin account and use a standard account to use the PC as normal, a bit like working in a office environment and not showing the admin account but without using windows server.

I can see that it's possible to hide the admin account but not found a method where the UAC prompts work normally by asking for the admin password when either installing a program or running a system command.
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01 Sep 2013   #18
mitchell65

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Please read this and you will perhaps believe me when keep say that in a standard user account you CANNOT install a program or edit system settings
What is a standard user account?
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01 Sep 2013   #19
MourningStar

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by mitchell65 View Post
... most of the experts here say that with Windows 7 you do not need third party clean up software, that provided within Windows 7 is quite sufficient for most needs. Indeed there is a big raft of opinion that suggests that some of these third party programs especiall registry cleaners do more harm than good. It's always as well to seek expert opinion here before installing and using these programs. ...
sorry for off-topic, but this statement has me puzzled. Where can I find the Windows 7 cleanup software?

Also, I have read posts here recommending CCleaner. It even has it's own sticky in a forum on this site. Is use of this app now discouraged?

-thnx
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01 Sep 2013   #20
derekimo

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post

If I need to have the admin account active, is there a way not to display this at the logon screen ?
There is a very similar discussion in this thread,

Hide enabled Administrator count from normal logon screen

With a possible solution posted by Brink,

Log On with User Name and Password
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