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Windows 7: Admin and Standard Account Users

01 Sep 2013   #31
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post
@andrew129260
Thanks for your reply, the reason I wanted to hide the admin user was to avoid the two login's at the login screen, also since using the interactive login I have found that it takes twice as long to show the desktop for any user.
Is it possible you have too many programs running at start up that could cause this?
Could you maybe post a screenshot of msconfig startup tab?
Start-run-msconfig


Also from your screenshot I see its asking for you to type the password but does not have a place to type it. I know what you saying below, but lets try the following below for giggles.

Have you tried running sfc /scannow?
SFC /SCANNOW Command - System File Checker


No errors found

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post
Unfortunately the UAC prompts do not allow for a admin password when the admin account is hidden, hence the start of this thread and request to see if anyone had overcome this.
Ok, gotcha.
This could be a possible reason......however it was definitely much faster without the interactive login, I am guessing that the there is a behind the scene script it has to run for the interaction?




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01 Sep 2013   #32
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

Under an administrator account in Windows 7 go into msconfig and uncheck the following from the startup tab:

1.) Ok, uncheck the following:

-Dell system detect <-----I would actually recommend uninstalling this. No reason for it.
-Advanced system care 6. <-----I would actually recommend uninstalling this. No reason for it.

I notice you are using IOBIT software.

From a cnet review:
"One minor issue we had with Malware Fighter was that it classifies the absence of Advanced SystemCare and Smart Defrag as "problems." There's no option to clear out these warnings, and choosing to fix them results in an automatic download and installation of IObit's other product offerings"

Just like cnet stated, these are not problems. Uninstall advanced system care. <----Guide on how to uninstall programs just in case you need it.


Replace with CCleaner if you must have a cleaner. Better utility, and best of all, does not take system resources unless you run it. It does not keep itself running.
Windows 7 does not need a cleaner. It handles a lot of things just fine by itself.
CCleaner is only recommended occasionally unless your system is really crawling.

-Adobe reader and acrobat manager. <-----It already runs as a service that helps auto update the program. This is not needed.
-Apple push
-Itunes (Anything with apple, uncheck. Or better yet, uninstall it. It is a known massive resource hog on windows. You do not need itunes on your pc to update or sync your apple products anymore, so this is basically completely pointless. Unless you like the media player built in, but I would just use windows media player or other software.)

Apple stuff to uninstall:
Bonjour
Apple software update
Safari
Quicktime
Itunes


Click ok, and then hit restart. After it boots up, msconfig will prompt again. Check the box and say ok so that msconfig does not run on startup every time.

You should notice a huge improvement in start up time on the second or third restart.
If not, some programs see themselves removed from startup and re-add themselves.
If boot up is still slow, check msconfig and see if they reactivated themselves. If they do, I don't trust the software. If I block them from start, they should stay blocked. To me this is risky behavior.

(Exception of course would be threat removal/antimalware programs. Antivirus etc.)

2.) Also could you check something else for me?
Go to -type performance in the search box. Click performance information and tools. Click advanced tools on the left hand side. Under performance issues does it list anything there?
If it says no issues found that's great, if things are listed there show me a screenshot of what it found, or tell me what was listed.

3.) Also, please take a look here for suggestions on maintaining windows.


Have you done a defrag in awhile? Windows does it automatically at 3am, but if your computer is not on at this time it will not be done. You can configure that in disk defrag.
Do not defrag if you have a solid state drive. (SSD)

If you need any more help, please ask. Let me know how it goes!
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04 Sep 2013   #33
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Just to make this clear. You CANNOT hide an account (Admin) and expect it to work with UAC. It will not. There is no way around it. The UAC prompt gets the same list as the login screen gets, hiding an account from the login screen hides it from UAC.
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04 Sep 2013   #34
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by logicearth View Post
Just to make this clear. You CANNOT hide an account (Admin) and expect it to work with UAC. It will not. There is no way around it. The UAC prompt gets the same list as the login screen gets, hiding an account from the login screen hides it from UAC.
This appears to be incorrect, as you can use the interactive login feature which means that user can not see the last person who has logged in, and each time will ask for user name and password to allow access to their account.
Although this means that it's not actually hiding the account it does mean that users will not see not be able to see the admin account or access it without the correct credentials.
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04 Sep 2013   #35
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
Under an administrator account in Windows 7 go into msconfig and uncheck the following from the startup tab:

1.) Ok, uncheck the following:

-Dell system detect <-----I would actually recommend uninstalling this. No reason for it.
-Advanced system care 6. <-----I would actually recommend uninstalling this. No reason for it.

I notice you are using IOBIT software.

From a cnet review:
"One minor issue we had with Malware Fighter was that it classifies the absence of Advanced SystemCare and Smart Defrag as "problems." There's no option to clear out these warnings, and choosing to fix them results in an automatic download and installation of IObit's other product offerings"

Just like cnet stated, these are not problems. Uninstall advanced system care. <----Guide on how to uninstall programs just in case you need it.


Replace with CCleaner if you must have a cleaner. Better utility, and best of all, does not take system resources unless you run it. It does not keep itself running.
Windows 7 does not need a cleaner. It handles a lot of things just fine by itself.
CCleaner is only recommended occasionally unless your system is really crawling.

-Adobe reader and acrobat manager. <-----It already runs as a service that helps auto update the program. This is not needed.
-Apple push
-Itunes (Anything with apple, uncheck. Or better yet, uninstall it. It is a known massive resource hog on windows. You do not need itunes on your pc to update or sync your apple products anymore, so this is basically completely pointless. Unless you like the media player built in, but I would just use windows media player or other software.)

Apple stuff to uninstall:
Bonjour
Apple software update
Safari
Quicktime
Itunes


Click ok, and then hit restart. After it boots up, msconfig will prompt again. Check the box and say ok so that msconfig does not run on startup every time.

You should notice a huge improvement in start up time on the second or third restart.
If not, some programs see themselves removed from startup and re-add themselves.
If boot up is still slow, check msconfig and see if they reactivated themselves. If they do, I don't trust the software. If I block them from start, they should stay blocked. To me this is risky behavior.

(Exception of course would be threat removal/antimalware programs. Antivirus etc.)

2.) Also could you check something else for me?
Go to -type performance in the search box. Click performance information and tools. Click advanced tools on the left hand side. Under performance issues does it list anything there?
If it says no issues found that's great, if things are listed there show me a screenshot of what it found, or tell me what was listed.

3.) Also, please take a look here for suggestions on maintaining windows.


Have you done a defrag in awhile? Windows does it automatically at 3am, but if your computer is not on at this time it will not be done. You can configure that in disk defrag.
Do not defrag if you have a solid state drive. (SSD)

If you need any more help, please ask. Let me know how it goes!
Unfortunately the the laptop is out of commission due to it catching fire, it has been sent back to the manufacturer for an investigation as it was only 2 years old and I had bought a 3 year service agreement when I purchased it and had a new fan assembly installed on Monday morning.

So now am in the process of waiting for a replacement but thanks for all your helpful suggestions
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04 Sep 2013   #36
andrew129260

Windows 10 Pro
 
 

It caught on fire?! Holy crap! What brand/model?

Well glad you are okay. Hope you had your data backed up.....

We will be here should you need further help with the new one
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04 Sep 2013   #37
bhavz

Professional 64 Bit SP1
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by andrew129260 View Post
It caught on fire?! Holy crap! What brand/model?

Well glad you are okay. Hope you had your data backed up.....

We will be here should you need further help with the new one
I had a Dell XPS L502X, I was able to remove the hard drive and connect directly to my custom built PC and copy all my data across before sending it back to them.

Knowing my luck they will send me a refurb one
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04 Sep 2013   #38
Layback Bear

Windows 7 Pro. 64/SP-1
 
 

Has IOBit every program been removed completely. I believe you will find until all IOBit is removed you will have nothing but problems. Hopefully the damage caused can be repaired without a clean install.

From post #7

Admin and Standard Account Users-iobit-9-4.png


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07 Sep 2013   #39
logicearth

Windows 10 Pro (x64)
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by bhavz View Post
This appears to be incorrect...
What is incorrect? Nothing I said was incorrect. What you just described is something completely different than what I was talking about.
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