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Windows 7: Should the "boot" be in the primary partition or on drive C.

22 Sep 2013   #1
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 
Should the "boot" be in the primary partition or on drive C.

Should the "boot" file be in the the Primary Partition or on drive C. I only have one drive & it is a Kingmax 240 gb SSD. In my case the "boot" is on C.
At present I have to boot my computer twice to get it to start windows. The first time it loads the BIOS & then asks for booting media or reboot, which is what I have been doing lately. The second boot starts Windows normally.
I have checked the boot order in the BIOS & at first start it will not detect the Kingmax drive, but on the second on it does recognise it.
I did detect at one point briefly that "boot manager" was missing, but I have not seen that again.
This has started since I did a firmware update on the SSD 2 days ago, so I suspect something has changed after that although the update went without any problems.


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22 Sep 2013   #2
Brink
Microsoft MVP

64-bit Windows 10 build 10122
 
 

Hello Bligh,

You might run a startup repair to see if it may be able to help with the boot issue. If needed, you may need to run it up to 3 times with a restart between each.

As a precaution, I would recommend to back up anything that you do not want to lose to another location just in case this may be an early sign of hard drive failure.

Hope this helps for now,
Shawn
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22 Sep 2013   #3
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Please post back a screenshot of Disk Management - Post a Screen Capture Image - Windows 7 Help Forums

Make sure the System Reserved partition (preferred if you have it) or C is Partition Marked Active before running Startup Repair - Run up to 3 Separate Times until Win7 starts on its own and holds the System Active Boot flags on C.

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23 Sep 2013   #4
alphanumeric
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

On my desktop PC the hidden System Reserved is marked as Active and the Windows Partition is marked as Boot. The System reserved is the first partition on the drive. It sounds to me like the firmware update is causing the BIOS to have a hard time iding the drive. I think I would reset the BIOS back to fail safe defaults. I would Also check the drive cables just to make sure they are connected properly.
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23 Sep 2013   #5
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

He doesn't mention having System reserved but if he does then it should be marked System Active. This means it holds the (System) boot files while the Active flag points to this as the partition booting Win7.

"Boot" only means the currently booted partition in Disk Mgmt. In Partition Wizard "Boot" and "System" are reversed to mean the oppostive, so there can be confusion.

If the problem is that it won't boot without the disk, then make sure SysReserved (if you have it) or C is marked Active, then run three Startup Repairs to correctly repair or rewrite the boot files while checking all other boot parameters at the same time.
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23 Sep 2013   #6
alphanumeric
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
He doesn't mention having System reserved but if he does then it should be marked System Active. This means it holds the (System) boot files while the Active flag points to this as the partition booting Win7.

"Boot" only means the currently booted partition in Disk Mgmt. In Partition Wizard "Boot" and "System" are reversed to mean the oppostive, so there can be confusion.

If the problem is that it won't boot without the disk, then make sure SysReserved (if you have it) or C is marked Active, then run three Startup Repairs to correctly repair or rewrite the boot files while checking all other boot parameters at the same time.
That's kind of what I was getting at, I mentioned it so the OP could compare it to what he has. A screen shot of disk management would likely help sort it out.
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23 Sep 2013   #7
gregrocker
Microsoft MVP

 
 

Righto, thanks for noticing that he didn't rule out having SysReserved partition.

Hopefullly we shall see.
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23 Sep 2013   #8
Dwarf

Windows 8.1 Pro RTM x64
 
 

It is quite possible that the firmware update has caused the active flag on the drive to be reset.
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23 Sep 2013   #9
alphanumeric
Microsoft MVP

Windows 8.1 Pro with Media Center 64 bit
 
 

The thing is though, on the reboot/second boot, Windows boots up normally. If it was something like a missing active partition setting, I would expect it to never boot up. That's why I think its a BIOS detection issue.
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24 Sep 2013   #10
Ranger4

Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
 
 

Many thanks to everyone who replied. Yes my drive does have a System Reserved partition as well as the normal C partition.
I ended up having to get professional help as the BIOS was apparently corrupted or damaged & had to be reloaded & updated, as this is really beyond my abilities.
Apparently the firmware update on the SSD was the likely culprit, so I certainly wont do that again without getting it done properly.
I am sorry it took me a while to reply but I only have one computer which, when it's out action I can't reply. I am now back on the air again & hopefully staying that way.
Many thanks again.
Bligh.
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