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Windows 7: Hard disk mbr and cluster for 4tb

29 Nov 2013   #1
fits79

win7
 
 
Hard disk mbr and cluster for 4tb

Hi.

I want to format this 4tb sata hard disk drive into one or two partitions so can my wd tv live gen2 media player recognize it but it must formatted as MBR AND NOT AS GPT.

So is there any way to formatted into one and only Master Boot Partition at mbr and cluster size like 4k(Or something else) so it can recognize by any device i connect that hard disk drive(Media player, windows7 e.t.c.)

A LOT OF THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR HELP.



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29 Nov 2013   #2
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Hi there
Please explain why it MUST be an MBR and not a GPT drive .

If it's NOT the boot drive you don't have to have an EFI BIOS (UEFI) to use a GPT drive.

Unless you have special software the max size an MBR disk can be is 2.2TB

Once the disk is formatted (NTFS) standard programs will simply recognize it as a normal disk -- you can partition it into smaller partitions too.

So I'm confused as to why it MUST be an MBR Disk. !!!

Cheers
jimbo
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29 Nov 2013   #3
fits79

win7
 
 

Already explain that.
Because the wd hd tv gen2 DOESN'T support gpt partitions so....
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29 Nov 2013   #4
jimbo45

Linux CENTOS 7 / various Windows OS'es and servers
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fits79 View Post
Already explain that.
Because the wd hd tv gen2 DOESN'T support gpt partitions so....
Hi there
How would it know

- the HD TV is just reading DATA - the partition design isn't of concern to application programs. It just wants to access the directories.

You can test it with another drive -- for example just convert an external USB drive to GPT and see if the application can access it.

Cheers
jimbo
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29 Nov 2013   #5
fits79

win7
 
 

Already test that if i format the 4tb hdd as gpt the wd hd tv gen2 DOESN'T SHOW IT AT ALL/IT DOESN'T RECOGNIZE IT so....

I must format it ONLY AT MBR on one or two partitions but as mbr.
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29 Nov 2013   #6
ytyyutianyun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fits79 View Post
Hi.

I want to format this 4tb sata hard disk drive into one or two partitions so can my wd tv live gen2 media player recognize it but it must formatted as MBR AND NOT AS GPT.

So is there any way to formatted into one and only Master Boot Partition at mbr and cluster size like 4k(Or something else) so it can recognize by any device i connect that hard disk drive(Media player, windows7 e.t.c.)

A LOT OF THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR HELP.
I think update the firmware will be better because this is the problem of the equipment.

The Data is damaged or corrupted after connecting a drive greater than 2 TB to a WD TV Live (WDBAAx0000NBK), Live Plus, or Live Hub

may help you
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30 Nov 2013   #7
fits79

win7
 
 

ALREADY have installed the latest firmware for that media player with any chance....

And as i tallied it is the wd hd tv gen2 NOT the wd hd tv live so.....

And i ALREADY tallied you that it doesn't see the 4tb hard disk at all not it see it and make the files corrupted so......
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30 Nov 2013   #8
ytyyutianyun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fits79 View Post
ALREADY have installed the latest firmware for that media player with any chance....

And as i tallied it is the wd hd tv gen2 NOT the wd hd tv live so.....

And i ALREADY tallied you that it doesn't see the 4tb hard disk at all not it see it and make the files corrupted so......
Then may be your equipment is too old.(in 2009 http://support.wdc.com/product/downl...d=1004&lang=en).What you can is to partition your 4tb into 2
For Seagate you can use Seagate DiscWizard to use another 2tb, but WD I don't know.
However, you can use the software.“Acronis True Image 2014”

Quote:
Acronis Extended Capacity Manager
The Acronis Extended Capacity Manager allows your operating system support large capacity disks with the MBR partition style. You are able to use the disk space beyond 2 TB. This free space will be recognized as a separate disk, and will be usable by your operating system and applications as if it was a regular physical hard disk.
Acronis Extended Capacity Manager wizard displays all hard disks larger than 2 TB (unallocated or with MBR partition style). You can see the disk space which Windows recognizes and allocates. This space is called Windows Native Capacity in the wizard.


You may try it, but I don't

By the way, does the equipment support the linux format such as ext4? you can try it.

And about 4K,
Quote:
as of October 2013, there are still no 4K native hard drives available on the market, and all Advanced Format devices are utilizing the 512e emulation instead.
You can see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Format
So you cannot format in one partition by MBR

Ps: I am sorry because I cannot distinguish the 2'nd Gen WD TV Live and wd hd tv gen2
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fits79 View Post
Hi.

I want to format this 4tb sata hard disk drive into one or two partitions so can my wd tv live gen2 media player ....

A LOT OF THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR HELP.
My System SpecsSystem Spec
30 Nov 2013   #9
ytyyutianyun

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by jimbo45 View Post
Hi there
Please explain why it MUST be an MBR and not a GPT drive .

If it's NOT the boot drive you don't have to have an EFI BIOS (UEFI) to use a GPT drive.

Unless you have special software the max size an MBR disk can be is 2.2TB

Once the disk is formatted (NTFS) standard programs will simply recognize it as a normal disk -- you can partition it into smaller partitions too.

So I'm confused as to why it MUST be an MBR Disk. !!!

Cheers
jimbo
the maximum partition size is up to the sector size
for example, a sector size of 512 bytes:=2^32x512 = 2TB
But a sector size of 4096 bytes: =2^32x4096 = 16TB
That's why he says 4096 bytes. But in windows, I don't know how to do that but using Acronis as above thread.
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30 Nov 2013   #10
fits79

win7
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ytyyutianyun View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fits79 View Post
ALREADY have installed the latest firmware for that media player with any chance....

And as i tallied it is the wd hd tv gen2 NOT the wd hd tv live so.....

And i ALREADY tallied you that it doesn't see the 4tb hard disk at all not it see it and make the files corrupted so......
Then may be your equipment is too old.(in 2009 WD Support / Downloads / Home Entertainment / WD TV HD Media Player (Gen 2)).What you can is to partition your 4tb into 2
For Seagate you can use Seagate DiscWizard to use another 2tb, but WD I don't know.
However, you can use the software.“Acronis True Image 2014”

Quote:
Acronis Extended Capacity Manager
The Acronis Extended Capacity Manager allows your operating system support large capacity disks with the MBR partition style. You are able to use the disk space beyond 2 TB. This free space will be recognized as a separate disk, and will be usable by your operating system and applications as if it was a regular physical hard disk.
Acronis Extended Capacity Manager wizard displays all hard disks larger than 2 TB (unallocated or with MBR partition style). You can see the disk space which Windows recognizes and allocates. This space is called Windows Native Capacity in the wizard.


You may try it, but I don't

By the way, does the equipment support the linux format such as ext4? you can try it.

And about 4K,
Quote:
as of October 2013, there are still no 4K native hard drives available on the market, and all Advanced Format devices are utilizing the 512e emulation instead.
You can see Advanced Format - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So you cannot format in one partition by MBR

Ps: I am sorry because I cannot distinguish the 2'nd Gen WD TV Live and wd hd tv gen2
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by fits79 View Post
Hi.

I want to format this 4tb sata hard disk drive into one or two partitions so can my wd tv live gen2 media player ....

A LOT OF THANKS FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR HELP.
I tell from the BEGGINNING that i have old wd media player.
And that maybe needed to split the 4tb hard disk into 2 mbr partitions of 2tb each partition

If i choose the mbr ntfs with cluster 64 what is the size limit for each partition?
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