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Windows 7: New MB and CPU; same HDD and OS. Couple of Qs

04 Dec 2013   #1
riffwraith

W7 64 Ult
 
 
New MB and CPU; same HDD and OS. Couple of Qs

Hi all. I have a couple of Qs about my setup here, and was hoping for some advice.

I use W7 SP-1 64-bit Ult. I moved on from my ASUS P6T and i7 960 to an ASUS 9x79-LE and i7 4820k. I have the absolute latest BIOS, swapped the RAM with crucial so I have the latest revision, am still using the same NVIDIA vid card (now the latest driver), and still use the same case and PSU. I am also using the same HDD with the old W7 install. I have been told that I shouldn't do this; but everything seems to be working ok. I installed the drivers from the ASUS CD. I had to reactivate Windows - put the key in and that went off without a hitch. And I updated the vid card driver as well. I have seen no issues so far, tho I have not yet plugged in my dongles and my soundcard. That's next.

So, the first Q is this: is it really not a good idea to run the old OS install? I realize that if I wanted to be safe, I would reinstall, but I am trying to avoid doing that because of all the stuff I have to install - all the programs, and authorizations... it's a PITA, and almost a full day's work. Like I said, everything is fine so far. But I still wanted to ask for some thoughts on this?

Secondly, when I go to my Device Mgr, there are a bunch of listings in yellow, telling me the device is not installed, and/or the driver is missing. The listing is under Other Devices, and it is "Base System Device". The thing is, there are 34 (thirty four) of them. I have never seen anything like that before. Then I have three listings for "Performance Counters" and one for "System Interrupt Controller". I ran the CD included with the board already, but admittedly, the board came with an old rev of BIOS, which I have since updated. Could that be the issue? Is this a MB thing, or something else? I can call ASUS, but I am probably better off here.

Thanks in advance.


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04 Dec 2013   #2
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

What you see in Device mgr are usually driver problems. You made a pretty dramatic change of your gear. I would recommend to update those drivers. You are probably running on some generic drivers now which may not give you optimal performance.

If the system runs, you need not do all 34 in one day. But over time it may be beneficial.
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04 Dec 2013   #3
riffwraith

W7 64 Ult
 
 

Thanks for the quick reply.

Would these be considered MB drivers, that I would get from the MB manufacturer? I just had a look at the avail. driver d/ls:

https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P9X79_LE/#support

- and don't see what I think I need.
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04 Dec 2013   #4
whs
Microsoft MVP

Vista, Windows7, Mint Mate, Zorin, Windows 8
 
 

Right, I would get the drivers from Asus.
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04 Dec 2013   #5
riffwraith

W7 64 Ult
 
 

Thanks. I don't think that this is a MB thing, tho:

I went to the Intel site to get the latest x79 chipset. Apparently, the one on the CD is an older version (not surprising). I d/l-ed and installed the newer version, and that took care of the "Performance Counters", the "System Interrupt Controller", and 33 of the "Base System Device". Still stuck with that one that's left.

Any ideas on how to tackle that?
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05 Dec 2013   #6
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

From Device Manager, right click on the device and select Properties. Click on the Details tab then under Property, select Hardware Ids. Snip that window and post it. It will look something like the picture below. Or you can just copy and paste all the values shown in the window into your message.


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05 Dec 2013   #7
riffwraith

W7 64 Ult
 
 

Hi - thanks for chiming in.

Here is the text.

PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0EB6&SUBSYS_84EF1043&REV_04
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0EB6&SUBSYS_84EF1043
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0EB6&CC_088000
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_0EB6&CC_0880

If it helps, the location is listed as: PCI bus 255, device 16, function 6

Thanks!
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05 Dec 2013   #8
smarteyeball

 
 

Try:

As long as you have installed the:
Intel® Chipset Device Software...from the Intel website
Intel(R) Management Engine Interface V9.0.0.1287 for Windows Vista/7/8 32bit & 64bit.(WHQL)...from the Asus Website

In device Manager manually use the "Browse my Computer" option to let Win find and install the files.


original thread here worked for them.
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05 Dec 2013   #9
carwiz

Windows 7 Pro-x64
 
 

The hardware Vendor is Intel but I couldn't find the Device code so I'm not much help.
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05 Dec 2013   #10
dsperber

Windows 7 Pro x64 (1), Win7 Pro X64 (2)
 
 

My guess is that those exclamation mark devices are on your old ASUS board and related chipset.

By simply moving the old installed Windows hard drive to your new machine environment, and installing the new chipset driver package from Intel (or ASUS, wherever you got it), you have ADDED support for the new mobo and CPU and chipset to your old installed Windows. But all of the hardware that was on the old mobo and is no longer on the new mobo is most likely what you're now seeing flags raised about.

My guess is that NONE of this will appear if/when you do a fresh new install.

If your machine is still apparently working properly or acceptably, I wouldn't worry about these numerous devices that Windows is "unhappy" about. I'm sure they'll disappear with a from-scratch cold install.

You can confirm this yourself, even without spending the day or two we know it will take to reinstall all of your application software from scratch when you do get around to a Windows install-from-scratch for your new hardware. Just take a system image backup of your current C-drive (and "system reserved" partition) with Macrium Reflect or whatever imaging software you use, presumably to some external USB drive or second internal hard drive. You're actually going to restore this back as soon as your experiment is over, as you appear not ready to go forward with a new from-scratch install yet, so you must put the image on some secondary media in order not to lose it when you reformat the hard drive for the temporary "experimental" from-scratch Windows install you're about to do.

Anyway, once you've got the image for recovery off on some secondary drive media, now go ahead and format the internal hard drive with a from-scratch Windows install. Run through the initial steps, to get the initial desktop. Run the Intel chipset installer, and any other ASUS-provided drivers for the mobo, soundcard, etc. You might also install the nVidia video driver. Basic new machine install from-scratch.

Now that you're essentially all built from scratch with the new hardware but without spending any additional time installing all of your 3rd-party application software and Windows customizations, you should again be able to look at Device Manager and see if all of the "exclamation marks" have disappeared as one would hope.

If everything looks good, you can now decide if you'll just bite the bullet and finish the from-scratch application installs to finish the job right by taking the necessary time to complete.

Or, if you're satisfied that this WILL eliminate your mystery "exclamation mark" devices if/when you ever eventually get the time to do the new Windows and applications from-scratch install job completely, you can just RESTORE the "system image" you took at the beginning of this experiment. And you're then right back where you started, with no more than maybe an hour or two spent experimenting.

If it were me, I'd never be satisfied with a new mobo/CPU upgrade unless I redid the from-scratch install of Windows and all vendor application software. Gives you an opportunity to "clean out the detritus" that no doubt has accumulated in your current (i.e. previous) system and start clean, all over again. Sure, it takes a few days depending on your collection of 3rd-party apps and Windows customizations, but we all know it's the right thing to do and it's worth it. Not every month or every six months (as it used to be with WinXP), but certainly every few years with Windows 7 and at the very least when you do a new hardware upgrade... that's often enough to justify a new long-lived super-stable Win7 reinstall from scratch.
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