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Windows 7: Recurring Boot Failure

04 Feb 2014   #11
gregrocker

 

Yes you'd want the latest drivers for the controlller you're using. I only was suggesting to try booting via the Intel controller since it worked on the previous install. We solve problems here by replacing the Marvel with Intel for boot device.

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04 Feb 2014   #12
Unvector

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

When you say "We solve problems here by replacing the Marvel with Intel for boot device", is that 'here' as in this thread. Meaning, you think switching from Marvell to Intel in this case will fix the problem. Or is it 'here' as in on this forum. Meaning you often solve problems by advising people to boot from Intel rather than Marvell?

I just now installed the Marvell driver. Honestly I don't know why I didn't before. I won't be able to tell if it makes any difference until I fail another boot, or, I don't know, several weeks pass without boot failure.


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04 Feb 2014   #13
gregrocker

 

It looks correc.

Yes I did mean here in the forums. But try running with the correct driver for awhile to see how it performs. Keep us posted.
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04 Feb 2014   #14
Unvector

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

So Marvell SATA controllers are known troublemakers? I wish I'd known about this when I bought my motherboard
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04 Feb 2014   #15
gregrocker

 

I'll ask someone more knowledgeable on Marvel vs. Intel to stop by. I've only seen the advice given repeatedly to default to Intel.
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04 Feb 2014   #16
Unvector

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Thank you gregrocker. I appreciate the help
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04 Feb 2014   #17
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

Yes I agree on using the Intel SATA ports on your board. Since you have a SSD you get much better performance than with Marvel even thought the Marvel controller is 6GBs. Here is a link to your board drivers page. Download them and save on a USB stick or place on a CD/DVD to install, or to your desktop if the problem machine is working.

Drivers: https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P7P55DE_LX/#support The Intel SATA will be the Intel Rapid Storage Technology. This also has a BIOS 1701, check your to see if you have that installed.

Attach the SSD to the BLUE port labeled SATA1.

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04 Feb 2014   #18
TVeblen

Microsoft Community Contributor Award Recipient

Windows 7 64 Bit Home Premium SP1
 
 

There's not a problem with the Marvel controllers - they are not 'troublemakers'. My understanding is that it is a potential problem due to the architecture of the machine itself.

The reason is because the Marvel controller is most often a secondary controller, added to a motherboard to give the user more SATA connectors than is possible with the core chipset, or to add next generation SATA connectors, or to use for a dedicated RAID array.
On an Intel chipset there might be only 6 SATA ports. Because these ports are native to the core chipset it is typical for the system to default to those ports when looking for a bootable device. Because the add on controller is a separate device and not native to the chipset there can be problems. The problem will be worst if that controller can't function at the system level, needing a driver loaded by the OS before it can work.

All these problems can be accounted for and corrected so that the add on controller can function seamlessly at the system level but that is up to the motherboard manufacturer and the available technology. So it is not a hard and fast rule to avoid the secondary controller for a boot device, but it is best practice. Some folks can do it, some can't.

The newer motherboards with true UEFI BIOS can now have drivers function at the System level, even before an OS is started. So if the installed BIOS has those drivers then devices can work at the system level, so it does not hurt to try it and see.

That's my understanding anyway.
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04 Feb 2014   #19
Unvector

Windows 7 Ultimate x64
 
 

Welcome to the thread, Britton30 and TVeblen, and thanks for the advice!

I do have the 1701 BIOS installed.

The only Intel SATA driver offered is 'Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager Driver V8.9.0.1023' from 2009. Is this what I need?
I guess I'm reluctant because of how old it is. Is this the wrong way to think and should I always get drivers from the manufacturer regardless of their age?

I will promptly switch over to using the Intel SATA ports again. The only reason I used Marvell was because I thought it would give me better performance.

Not debating anything, just out of curiosity: Why would using the Intel ports give better performance despite their lower speed?

Interesting read, TVeblen. This is my first motherboard with a secondary controller like this. I'll keep this in mind when I pick out motherboards in the future.
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04 Feb 2014   #20
Britton30
Microsoft MVP

Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
 
 

OK, BIOS, check.

Yes use the 'Intel(R) Matrix Storage Manager Driver V8.9.0.1023' It is the latest one ASUS supports for your board. Intel also supplies drivers from their own page but are sometimes buggy.

I don't know why the Intel ports perform better, it may be that they are more specifically suited to the Intel chipsets.

I think you'll find all motherboards will have a secondary SATA (and USB) controllers because the built-in ones in the chipset can only support a limited number of either, and as TVeblen explained.
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