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Windows 7: Very Intermitant Boot Stalls.

31 May 2014   #1
Big Ben

Windows 7 Pro 32Bit
 
 
Very Intermitant Boot Stalls.

Boot Problems

Was running XP/W7 as a dual boot system, Windows 7 Pro all ways booted OK, but it was not really loaded with software, in the last few months XP is halting on loading hard drive at about 90% of the boot process it stalls, Hard Drive Led active though.

Removed XP and did a clean install of W7, this is doing the same thing get Widows starting screen lots of hard drive activity then halts at about 90%, then some times the Hard Drive Led flashes ever few seconds, windows dose not run just shows stating screen.

Part off ntbtlog.txt boot log shoes were is stops after loading USBSTOR.SYS

Here when its working it carries on with these next drivers.

Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\drivers\hidusb.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\LHidFilt.Sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\mouhid.sys
Loaded driver \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\LMouFilt.Sys


NOTE: the Boot stall happens may be once a day or once in 3 or 4 days allway boots the second try, its not just the first boot of the Day, have since replaced the hard drive and the PSU, memtest86 OK..


Asrock Z68 Pro3-M mobo Intel i5 2500K 4Gb G-skill, not over clock yet, need to get a better fan Lots of USB devices connected all but one self powered, 1Tb USB3 Imation portable drive.

Virua app Kespersky 2013 and Free Comodo


Any thing I can do to track this bug down

Thanks


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31 May 2014   #2
cyanna

windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

go to the Event viewer. Expand “Applications and Services Logs,” “Microsoft,” “Windows,” “Diagnostics / Performance,” and finally “Operational.” Sort the events by the Task category. Look for errors in the Boot Performance category. Double click an event to get a pop up window with some details about what is causing delays......
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31 May 2014   #3
Big Ben

Windows 7 Pro 32Bit
 
 
Eveent Log

Hi Thanks for the Reply I am getting lots of Boot Warnings and 2 critical.

Here is of the critical ones, it seems to be flagging the boot time and not the cause, the warning evens are not all the same, so I am still in the dark.

Log Name: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
Date: 31/05/2014 2:54:56 p.m.
Event ID: 100
Task Category: Boot Performance Monitoring
Level: Critical
Keywords: Event Log
User: LOCAL SERVICE
Computer: Bill-PC
Description:
Windows has started up:
Boot Duration : 121596ms
IsDegradation : false
Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2014‎-‎05‎-‎31T02:52:52.609200100Z
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance" Guid="{CFC18EC0-96B1-4EBA-961B-622CAEE05B0A}" />
<EventID>100</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>1</Level>
<Task>4002</Task>
<Opcode>34</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000010000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-05-31T02:54:56.434660000Z" />
<EventRecordID>651</EventRecordID>
<Correlation ActivityID="{8735F364-5DE7-0003-E3CE-776A7B7CCF01}" />
<Execution ProcessID="1928" ThreadID="3912" />
<Channel>Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational</Channel>
<Computer>Bill-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-19" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BootTsVersion">2</Data>
<Data Name="BootStartTime">2014-05-31T02:52:52.609200100Z</Data>
<Data Name="BootEndTime">2014-05-31T02:54:54.603555200Z</Data>
<Data Name="SystemBootInstance">124</Data>
<Data Name="UserBootInstance">112</Data>
<Data Name="BootTime">121596</Data>
<Data Name="MainPathBootTime">28391</Data>
<Data Name="BootKernelInitTime">14</Data>
<Data Name="BootDriverInitTime">1415</Data>
<Data Name="BootDevicesInitTime">2027</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchInitTime">26151</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchBytes">472059904</Data>
<Data Name="BootAutoChkTime">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootSmssInitTime">18277</Data>
<Data Name="BootCriticalServicesInitTime">2290</Data>
<Data Name="BootUserProfileProcessingTime">668</Data>
<Data Name="BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">2117</Data>
<Data Name="BootExplorerInitTime">1752</Data>
<Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">10</Data>
<Data Name="BootPostBootTime">93205</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRebootAfterInstall">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsStepDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsGradualDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootImprovementDelta">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootDegradationDelta">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRootCauseIdentified">false</Data>
<Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">1638</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitStartTimeMS">14</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitDuration">2123</Data>
<Data Name="OtherKernelInitDuration">1539</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS">3555</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitDuration">1319</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitStartTimeMS">4982</Data>
<Data Name="Session0InitDuration">16047</Data>
<Data Name="Session1InitDuration">246</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">1984</Data>
<Data Name="WinLogonStartTimeMS">23260</Data>
<Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">591</Data>
<Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">399</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>
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31 May 2014   #4
Big Ben

Windows 7 Pro 32Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cyanna View Post
go to the Event viewer. Expand “Applications and Services Logs,” “Microsoft,” “Windows,” “Diagnostics / Performance,” and finally “Operational.” Sort the events by the Task category. Look for errors in the Boot Performance category. Double click an event to get a pop up window with some details about what is causing delays......

I made a mistake and just saw the critical ones there are error ones but the are not consistent, I did get one warning for todays use, none of Event show any consistentcy most flag Error ID100

As below

Log Name: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational
Source: Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance
Date: 1/06/2014 2:01:13 p.m.
Event ID: 100
Task Category: Boot Performance Monitoring
Level: Warning
Keywords: Event Log
User: LOCAL SERVICE
Computer: Bill-PC
Description:
Windows has started up:
Boot Duration : 48560ms
IsDegradation : false
Incident Time (UTC) : ‎2014‎-‎06‎-‎01T01:59:06.593600100Z
Event Xml:
<Event xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/win/2004/08/events/event">
<System>
<Provider Name="Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance" Guid="{CFC18EC0-96B1-4EBA-961B-622CAEE05B0A}" />
<EventID>100</EventID>
<Version>2</Version>
<Level>3</Level>
<Task>4002</Task>
<Opcode>34</Opcode>
<Keywords>0x8000000000010000</Keywords>
<TimeCreated SystemTime="2014-06-01T02:01:13.770821700Z" />
<EventRecordID>654</EventRecordID>
<Correlation ActivityID="{00000000-28C4-0000-83A4-06123D7DCF01}" />
<Execution ProcessID="1824" ThreadID="3232" />
<Channel>Microsoft-Windows-Diagnostics-Performance/Operational</Channel>
<Computer>Bill-PC</Computer>
<Security UserID="S-1-5-19" />
</System>
<EventData>
<Data Name="BootTsVersion">2</Data>
<Data Name="BootStartTime">2014-06-01T01:59:06.593600100Z</Data>
<Data Name="BootEndTime">2014-06-01T02:01:11.378684800Z</Data>
<Data Name="SystemBootInstance">126</Data>
<Data Name="UserBootInstance">114</Data>
<Data Name="BootTime">48560</Data>
<Data Name="MainPathBootTime">31860</Data>
<Data Name="BootKernelInitTime">14</Data>
<Data Name="BootDriverInitTime">990</Data>
<Data Name="BootDevicesInitTime">1766</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchInitTime">27409</Data>
<Data Name="BootPrefetchBytes">474755072</Data>
<Data Name="BootAutoChkTime">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootSmssInitTime">19164</Data>
<Data Name="BootCriticalServicesInitTime">2401</Data>
<Data Name="BootUserProfileProcessingTime">600</Data>
<Data Name="BootMachineProfileProcessingTime">1844</Data>
<Data Name="BootExplorerInitTime">3171</Data>
<Data Name="BootNumStartupApps">9</Data>
<Data Name="BootPostBootTime">16700</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRebootAfterInstall">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepImprovementBits">4</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualImprovementBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseStepDegradationBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootRootCauseGradualDegradationBits">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsStepDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsGradualDegradation">false</Data>
<Data Name="BootImprovementDelta">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootDegradationDelta">0</Data>
<Data Name="BootIsRootCauseIdentified">true</Data>
<Data Name="OSLoaderDuration">1780</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitStartTimeMS">14</Data>
<Data Name="BootPNPInitDuration">1862</Data>
<Data Name="OtherKernelInitDuration">2023</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitStartTimeMS">3777</Data>
<Data Name="SystemPNPInitDuration">894</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitStartTimeMS">4779</Data>
<Data Name="Session0InitDuration">16167</Data>
<Data Name="Session1InitDuration">212</Data>
<Data Name="SessionInitOtherDuration">2784</Data>
<Data Name="WinLogonStartTimeMS">23944</Data>
<Data Name="OtherLogonInitActivityDuration">2300</Data>
<Data Name="UserLogonWaitDuration">451</Data>
</EventData>
</Event>
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02 Jun 2014   #5
cyanna

windows 7 ultimate x64
 
 

you can safely ignore the warning ones. Even if the critical are not consistent, at least they will tell you if there was a program or driver that caused the delay. In the first event log you have
Quote:
Boot Duration : 121596ms
I also notice that you seem to have one less app loadig at startup. Is this something you have changed deliberately? It did improve post boot time but for some reason loading your profile seems to have taken longer....
look through other Critical events. If you consistently get them without a file/applicatio/process being identified as the problem the issue might be hardware related.
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06 Jun 2014   #6
Big Ben

Windows 7 Pro 32Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by cyanna View Post
you can safely ignore the warning ones. Even if the critical are not consistent, at least they will tell you if there was a program or driver that caused the delay. In the first event log you have
Quote:
Boot Duration : 121596ms
I also notice that you seem to have one less app loadig at startup. Is this something you have changed deliberately? It did improve post boot time but for some reason loading your profile seems to have taken longer....
look through other Critical events. If you consistently get them without a file/applicatio/process being identified as the problem the issue might be hardware related.

I removed the Comodo firewall as that was being flagged in the boot list.

One thing that fits into this time line is that I replaced a Brother HL-2040 Printer with a HL-2240D some months back and have now plugged it into a direct USB port not via a port sharing device, that does not seem affect any thing as the boot locket up again now, may be remove the printer next as the boot log shows the boot log stopping on a USB driver.
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07 Jun 2014   #7
gregrocker

 

Never install anything Comodo. Flush it.

I wouldn't use the KGB's Kapersky either. Everyone here recommends Microsoft Security Essentials
which doesn't interfere with performance while the others can and will

The errors you were posting only document you have a long boot time. You'd be looking for other errors to find out why. There is more about how to resolve repeat errors in the logs that matter, most importantly establish a Clean Boot, utilize SYstem Resources to resolve problems and other important troubleshooting and optimizations in the Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
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08 Jun 2014   #8
Big Ben

Windows 7 Pro 32Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Never install anything Comodo. Flush it.


And what do I replace it with.?

I wouldn't use the KGB's Kapersky either. Everyone here recommends Microsoft Security Essentials
which doesn't interfere with performance while the others can and will

Microsoft Security Essentials has a Zero rating as a AV program and its failed on me many times, I will never ever use it again, Kapersky has a 100% Rating and highly rated and in the past have had personal emails from him.

The errors you were posting only document you have a long boot time. You'd be looking for other errors to find out why. There is more about how to resolve repeat errors in the logs that matter, most importantly establish a Clean Boot, utilize SYstem Resources to resolve problems and other important troubleshooting and optimizations in the Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7
Look at my First post the boot log shows that it fails after loading the USB driver.


You other suggestions are not possible as it can boot Ok for up to 4 days and all ways boots the second time, the boot log shows were it hangs.

Just not a simple text book case, spent 2 days looking for a fix that is why I joined this forum.
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08 Jun 2014   #9
gregrocker

 

Windows Firewall. MSE with smart browsing and on-demand Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware. These recommendations are nearly the unanimous recommendations since beta here at the home of Win7 and top tech forum in web history.

Did you get your drivers first from Important and Optional Updates after enabling Hardware Auto Updating? Win7 is not XP but provides its own drivers. I would want to wipe the HD of any boot code and reinstall following the tutorial in my signature pic below which compiles everything that works best in tens of thousand of installs we've helped with here since beta.
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08 Jun 2014   #10
Big Ben

Windows 7 Pro 32Bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by gregrocker View Post
Windows Firewall. MSE with smart browsing and on-demand Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware. These recommendations are nearly the unanimous recommendations since beta here at the home of Win7 and top tech forum in web history.

Did you get your drivers first from Important and Optional Updates after enabling Hardware Auto Updating? Win7 is not XP but provides its own drivers. I would want to wipe the HD of any boot code and reinstall following the tutorial in my signature pic below which compiles everything that works best in tens of thousand of installs we've helped with here since beta.
Windows Firewall is just a one way firewall no good at all, so I will be going back to Comodo and already have Malwarebytes

Al drivers are from the Manufacturers web sites, all but one comes from Station-Drivers - News Ive been in the Computer business far to long and never ever needed to wipe a hard disk.

I think we are getting way of the subject The Is a Very intermittentt Boot and hangs after loading USBSTOR.SYS driver. and from a clean install of W7 Pro 32bits
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