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Windows 7: Win8 upgrade experience

22 Jun 2014   #121
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

What's your boot config look like now?

I haven't been "cheating" yet - so I 'll have to look at the tut. Can you post a link? Don't want to look at the wrong one - Mr. Brink is very prolific

Off hand, I'd guess that the rec is for dual booting, not a general rec for Win8.

Thanks,

Bill
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22 Jun 2014   #122
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
The only thing that is bugging me is the win-8 boot manager,
It's really slow,
Last shut down coming from win-7 is the fastest mostly because if you/ I were last on win-7 and shut down,
Restart would use win-7 boot manager not win-8 boot manager,

But if you/ I were to shut down from win-8 restart would use win-8 boot manager on startup,
It's still only a couple of minutes but win-7 going either 7 or 8 only takes seconds to complete the transition,
Very odd,
Might have something to do with disabling fast start in win-8 as Brink's tutorial recommends disabling fast startup on win-8 side ?
Cheers.
I set Win 7 x64 as the default Boot OS.
With that setting the PC always uses the Win 7 boot selection screen.
I like that much better than the Win 8 boot selection screen.
I used EasyBCD for this, but you should be able to set the default with msconfig or BCD commands.
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22 Jun 2014   #123
Indianatone

Windows 7 x64 Ultimate and numerous virtual machines
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by DavidW7ncus View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
The only thing that is bugging me is the win-8 boot manager,
It's really slow,
Last shut down coming from win-7 is the fastest mostly because if you/ I were last on win-7 and shut down,
Restart would use win-7 boot manager not win-8 boot manager,

But if you/ I were to shut down from win-8 restart would use win-8 boot manager on startup,
It's still only a couple of minutes but win-7 going either 7 or 8 only takes seconds to complete the transition,
Very odd,
Might have something to do with disabling fast start in win-8 as Brink's tutorial recommends disabling fast startup on win-8 side ?
Cheers.
I set Win 7 x64 as the default Boot OS.
With that setting the PC always uses the Win 7 boot selection screen.
I like that much better than the Win 8 boot selection screen.
I used EasyBCD for this, but you should be able to set the default with msconfig or BCD commands.
I do the same thing as you Dave. I think what actually happens if you set it to 8 as default Windows 8 almost completely loads then asks you to choose. If you choose 8 the sign on screen appears right away. If you choose 7 the machine restarts and loads Windows 7 which take a while. It just cheats to make 8 look faster than 7.
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22 Jun 2014   #124
DavidE

Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64
 
 

I think you're right.
I see the same thing as you do in how it boots.
I was pleasantly surprised when I got the Win 7 boot screen after changing the default OS from Win 8 to Win 7.
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22 Jun 2014   #125
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

Interesting read here. I have switched to 8 as my only OS. I found I don't need a start menu, just made my start screen good for me.

Win8 upgrade experience-start.png


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22 Jun 2014   #126
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
What's your boot config look like now?

I haven't been "cheating" yet - so I 'll have to look at the tut. Can you post a link? Don't want to look at the wrong one - Mr. Brink is very prolific

Off hand, I'd guess that the rec is for dual booting, not a general rec for Win8.

Thanks,

Bill
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Near the bottom #11 I believe,
Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista
I'm not sure if this is effecting booting to win-7 or not ?
Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 8

But yes indeed win-7 default all the way changed to 5 seconds
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22 Jun 2014   #127
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dude View Post
Interesting read here. I have switched to 8 as my only OS. I found I don't need a start menu, just made my start screen good for me.

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Yes the borg has you now Duquitice
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22 Jun 2014   #128
Dude

Windows 10 Pro X64
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Dude View Post
Interesting read here. I have switched to 8 as my only OS. I found I don't need a start menu, just made my start screen good for me.

Attachment 322724
Yes the borg has you now Duquitice
Resistance is Futile
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22 Jun 2014   #129
ThrashZone

Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
 
 

I'm sure everyone has this wall
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23 Jun 2014   #130
Slartybart

x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
 
 

Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by ThrashZone View Post
Quote   Quote: Originally Posted by Slartybart View Post
What's your boot config look like now?

I haven't been "cheating" yet - so I 'll have to look at the tut. Can you post a link? Don't want to look at the wrong one - Mr. Brink is very prolific

Off hand, I'd guess that the rec is for dual booting, not a general rec for Win8.

Thanks,

Bill
.
Near the bottom #11 I believe,
Dual Boot Installation - Windows 8 and Windows 7 or Vista
I'm not sure if this is effecting booting to win-7 or not ?
Fast Startup - Turn On or Off in Windows 8

But yes indeed win-7 default all the way changed to 5 seconds
Thanks Mike,

I'm wondering if some of the comments about booting to Win8 and slower shutdown might be related to the hybrid solution. A quick scan of the links (very quick, so I might be way off base) indicates that hibernation is used to speed up Win8 boot.

If I read that correctly then, Win8 shutdown writes the hiberfile (has to be down at shut down to speed up startup). So here's my guess - turn off hibernation.

I don't use that feature (hibernation) and Win8 boots fairly fast.

Any takers on testing turning off hibernation with dual boot to see how that affects shutdown and startup?

Bill
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